Martha Nibley Beck back in the news

[_antishock8]

In her book, From Housewife to Heretic, she claims to have had mystical revelations in which God was revealed to here as a sexless, androgynous being.

And I'm glad your not one of those who assumes the worst about everything and everyone Mormon.

As opposed to a man claiming to have been visited by *fill-in-the-blank* being(s)? That's a funny sentiment coming from someone who believes in a host of asexual angels, demons, spirits, and other kinds of beings.

[_Droopy]

Hmmm. Martha Beck waits decades, until her Father dies, and then publically destroys his reputation with allegations of the most bizarre ritual sexual abuses (mimicking the now infamous McMartin case, making Nibley look like not only a sickening lecher, but freakish and idiotic as well), then leaves the Church and comes out as a lesbian. Meanwhile, her husband reveals himself as a male homosexual.

Perhaps, just perhaps, Beck is looking for a scapegoat for her very real and very deeply messed up life?

After looking a little more closely at this, I'm now beginning to feel a little more pity and a little less irritation. A life this confused and convoluted must cry out for something or someone to beat on; someone upon which to sprinkle the blood of sacrifice.

[_Droopy]

And this person is a life coach?


Perhaps the message to Beck should just be: Physician, heal thyself.

[_Droopy]

As opposed to a man claiming to have been visited by *fill-in-the-blank* being(s)? That's a funny sentiment coming from someone who believes in a host of asexual angels, demons, spirits, and other kinds of beings.

The same kind of beings you see all the time between Friday afternoon and Monday morning.

[_Trevor]

Hmmm. Martha Beck waits decades, until her Father dies, and then publically destroys his reputation with allegations of the most bizarre ritual sexual abuses (mimicking the now infamous McMartin case, making Nibley look like not only a sickening lecher, but freakish and idiotic as well), then leaves the Church and comes out as a lesbian. Meanwhile, her husband reveals himself as a male homosexual.

I think you have the order of events mixed up here.

[_Droopy]

Hmmm. Martha Beck waits decades, until her Father dies, and then publically destroys his reputation with allegations of the most bizarre ritual sexual abuses (mimicking the now infamous McMartin case, making Nibley look like not only a sickening lecher, but freakish and idiotic as well), then leaves the Church and comes out as a lesbian. Meanwhile, her husband reveals himself as a male homosexual.

I think you have the order of events mixed up here.

That's how its give in the Guardian UK article:

Beck has had an extraordinary life. She has survived childhood sexual abuse, and removed herself from the Mormon church. She was married for 10 years, before she came out as gay - and only after her husband announced he was homosexual. Now, she is a sought-after life coach, a best-selling writer and appears regularly on Oprah. "Sometimes it's really laughable," she says. "I'll be in a seminar and people will be talking about their experiences and I'll say, 'Oh, that happened to me and that happened to me too.' They think I'm making it up because it's too ridiculous." Where to start?

I really don't think the chronological order matters that much for general purposes. Its the holistic totality of the general coarse of her life that's of primary interest. Everything here revolves around sex, psychosexual identity problems and sexual perversions, in each case having to do with same sex attraction. Then we add deep hypnosis, alleged repressed memories, and years of media hounding, and the whole thing begins to look more and more like the plotline of one of the more adventurous daytime Soaps. Somehow, she even manages to find and marry a man who himself has deep sexual identity problems.

Something, indeed, is up here, but its not Dr. Nibley, imperfect father as he may have been.

[_Trevor]

That's how its give in the Guardian UK article:

Beck has had an extraordinary life. She has survived childhood sexual abuse, and removed herself from the Mormon church. She was married for 10 years, before she came out as gay - and only after her husband announced he was homosexual. Now, she is a sought-after life coach, a best-selling writer and appears regularly on Oprah. "Sometimes it's really laughable," she says. "I'll be in a seminar and people will be talking about their experiences and I'll say, 'Oh, that happened to me and that happened to me too.' They think I'm making it up because it's too ridiculous." Where to start?

Oh, I see. You simply turned a list into a series of events.

Something, indeed, is up here, but its not Dr. Nibley, imperfect father as he may have been.

May or may not be Nibley. I am, however, inclined to think not. I can't account for her choices and problems.

[_beastie]

Beck also described a chaotic home life, in which their mother was often bed-ridden (perhaps due to depression), and the children were often left to fend for themselves. Have her siblings also denied this description, or have they focused solely on the abuse? Petersen claims that the siblings "all" (although I can't tell if the "all" refers to half the children or the entire group) have "issues" with their father due to his absences:

"None of the family agrees with her story," said Boyd Peterson, who is married to Beck's sister Zina (and who authored a Hugh Nibley biography). "And the Nibley family is itself pretty diverse. Probably 50 percent of the brothers and sisters are no longer members of the LDS Church, or they are members in name only. All of them have issues with their father. The boys are angry about his being a big Mormon celebrity who was too often absent from the family."

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600109810,00.html

[_antishock8]

As opposed to a man claiming to have been visited by *fill-in-the-blank* being(s)? That's a funny sentiment coming from someone who believes in a host of asexual angels, demons, spirits, and other kinds of beings.

The same kind of beings you see all the time between Friday afternoon and Monday morning.

No no, I don't see drunk South Carolinians on a regular basis. If I wanted to see genitalia-less beings I would just arrange a meeting with you and The Nehor for tea and crumpets. Good day, Sir.

[_beastie]

No no, I don't see drunk South Carolinians on a regular basis. If I wanted to see genitalia-less beings I would just arrange a meeting with you and The Nehor for tea and crumpets. Good day, Sir.

OWNED!

(did I get that right?)