Ray A wrote:From the William Law Interview (1887):
Man, that William Law is one interesting fellow. I am so glad we have these bits from him.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
The Nehor wrote:This and the treatise on government (still in the D&C) were written while the Prophet was absent.
What does this have to do with anything?
Joseph Smith knew what was in the scriptures, he approved of it, embraced it as official scripture and doctrine, claimed to abide by it, taught it, and presented it as true to members and the world. It wasn't as if he was unaware of what was going on or what was scripture.
Is every bit of scripture revelation? Nope.
Was Joseph Smith present when all other scripture was made doctrinal? Or other official writings added to scripture? Nope.
This (Joseph Smith was not there) argument makes no sense to me.
~dancer~
Moreover, up until shortly before his death, Joseph Smith publicly proclaimed he had only one wife (which was consistent with this treatise, which was published in Mormon canon long after his death, whereas D&C 132 was not).
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
solomarineris wrote:What? Can't you see? He lied. None of things he said were true. Otherwise all apologists, DCP, Juliann would stand by you.
Damn!
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Ray A wrote:From the William Law Interview (1887):
Man, that William Law is one interesting fellow. I am so glad we have these bits from him.
What? Can't you see? He lied. None of things he said were true. Otherwise all apologists, DCP, Juliann would stand by you.
I thought it was well known that William Law wasn't Joseph's friend. I'm sure that someone whom doesn't like another person can give a non-biased testimony. But while we are on this issue, if Joseph Smith were a polygamist then how come he would sue someone for deffamation of charactor for claiming he was? Wouldn't this be stupid? Especially since the defendant was an attorney.
"… Do you believe Jesus Christ and the gospel of salvation which he revealed? So do I. Christians should cease wrangling and contending with each other, and cultivate the principles of union and friendship. I am just as ready to die defending the rights of a Presbyterian, a Baptist, or a good man of any other denomination." Joseph Smith jr. Sermon, 1843
This and the treatise on government (still in the D&C) were written while the Prophet was absent.
Moreover, it was allowed to stand during BY's time, when the leaders stopped hiding polygamy from the general members, anyway.
It's a good question - why didn't church members question leaders as to why this was in their scriptures?
They probably asked God about it and he clarified it for them.
You would probably condemn such dishonesty from other religious organizations.
No, probably not.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
D&C 101: 4 does not say anything about concubines!
Other references to multiple partners in the Book of Mormon and later D&C revelations include concubines as commonplace. In the absence of specific reference to concubines in this specific text, we can assume that they were not mentioned for a reason (spelled L-O-O-P-H-O-L-E).
In fact, if one were to accept that a functioning temple was required to re-institute plural marriage proper, concubinage may have been a temporary arrangement pending completion of the Nauvoo temple (when one would assume concubines would be made full wives). So it was not Joseph Smith' fault that he didn't make it to the grand opening. And if the gentiles didn't read between the lines, tough bikkies. I am a bit shaky on the opening dates of Utah temples, so I won't go there. But, having set up in Utah and establishing the 'principle' of plural marriage of actual wives from the pulpit, amending the D&C to reflect multiple wife-taking was simply a formality.