D. Michael Quinn: The Rest Is History

[_collegeterrace]

So... what's he doing now? I hope he's not pulling a lumberjack. That would be just too sad.

This You Tube video is of poor quality, but it will give you an insight into Quinn's thoughts ten years after excommunication (2003).

The Mormon September Six, 10 Years After: Michael Quinn

Thanx for that vid Ray.

The angle of the camera was interesting, with the EXIT sign in the background.

[_Ray A]

Thanx for that vid Ray.

The angle of the camera was interesting, with the EXIT sign in the background.

I noticed that too!

[_Ray A]

More about Quinn from Wiki:

In an April 2006 article, Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Golden wrote that Quinn has become unhireable because almost all the funding for professorships in Mormon studies comes from Mormon donors. In 2003, Brigham Young University threatened to withdraw funding for a conference it was co-sponsoring at Yale if Quinn were allowed to speak. More recently Arizona State University administrators vetoed the department of religious studies in its recommendation to hire Quinn. ASU faculty believe officials fear alienating ASU’s 3,700 LDS students and offending Ira Fulton, a powerful Mormon donor who, according to Golden, has called Quinn a “nothing person".

[_moksha]

If only he had learned from Elder Packer and written only inspiring and faith promoting history and kept everything else hidden as Elder Packer had suggested, his life would have been far different. He would have sat at some endowed chair in Mormon Studies and perhaps inched closer to that Apostle goal.

Would we or history have been enriched by him taking Packer's suggested road?

[_Ray A]

Would we or history have been enriched by him taking Packer's suggested road?

Nay, nay, nay. I would give my vote of confidence to Quinn over any apologist, because I want the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Spin doesn't inspire.

[_Ray A]

Ira A. Fulton:

Ira A. Fulton (born November 12, 1931 in Tempe, Arizona) is an Arizona philanthropist, land developer, and businessman. BusinessWeek has listed Fulton 36th on its list of "The 50 Most Generous Philanthropists" for 2006.[1] The Arizona Legislature has also recognized his generosity.[2]

According to BusinessWeek, Fulton and his wife have given away about $265 million, approximately 60% of their net worth.[3] Major recipients include Arizona State University (ASU), Brigham Young University (BYU),[4] the University of Utah,[5] and Utah Valley University.[6] Both Arizona State's Ira A. Fulton School of Engineering[7] at ASU and BYU's Ira A. Fulton College of Engineering and Technology[8] are named after Fulton. Additionally the Mary Lou Fulton College of Education at ASU is named for his wife.[9] Other major recipients include Huntsman Cancer Foundation.[10]

This same "philanthropist" said:

ASU faculty believe officials fear alienating ASU’s 3,700 LDS students and offending Ira Fulton, a powerful Mormon donor who, according to Golden, has called Quinn a “nothing person".

[_Blixa]

Thanks for the link, Ray, lately you've been dispensing them as though you were shown a cave under a hill filled with treasures!

I haven't had time to read the article yet, though I've long thought, as others have said, that Quinn's problem wasn't that he believed to little but believed too much.

You might remember the account I gave of spending several days in the D. Michael Quinn papers at Yale earlier this year. He is an atypically generous scholar and the wealth of material there, as well as that found in every one of his publications, is really inspiring.

I hope to catch up on what you've recently linked to, as well as the other interesting information that's been surfacing here at MDB, soon. The semester just started and I appear to have at least one class full of hard working, inquisitive and delightful students. That means extra work for me, but work that is an absolute pleasure.

[_Inconceivable]

Thanks Ray.

One thing that impresses me about his speech is that it's more about being a contributor (in being a saint by blessing other people). He doesn't strike me as one self absorbed with accolades and self promotion.

I don't know if he is so complex. But it seems his dilemma is.

[_Ray A]

Thanks for the link, Ray, lately you've been dispensing them as though you were shown a cave under a hill filled with treasures!

There should be more soon, Blixa. Not that you wouldn't be aware of most, and the backgrounds to them.

I haven't had time to read the article yet, though I've long thought, as others have said, that Quinn's problem wasn't that he believed to little but believed too much.

I hadn't previously heard him describe his excommunication as "going to your own funeral" (in the You Tube video). Even ten years later the emotion was still there. I think this is a side of Quinn many others may not have been aware of.

You might remember the account I gave of spending several days in the D. Michael Quinn papers at Yale earlier this year. He is an atypically generous scholar and the wealth of material there, as well as that found in every one of his publications, is really inspiring.

I couldn't have said it better. Even better than the D. Michael Quinn papers would be several hours talking to the man.

I hope to catch up on what you've recently linked to, as well as the other interesting information that's been surfacing here at MDB, soon. The semester just started and I appear to have at least one class full of hard working, inquisitive and delightful students. That means extra work for me, but work that is an absolute pleasure.

I'm envious. I'll still look forward to your occasional contributions.

[_Ray A]

Thanks Ray.

One thing that impresses me about his speech is that it's more about being a contributor (in being a saint by blessing other people). He doesn't strike me as one self absorbed with accolades and self promotion.

That impressed me too, Inconceivable, beyond measure. His honesty is also striking. Seems to be a natural follow on to his approach to history.