The Mormon Gulag

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_Gadianton
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Re: The Mormon Gulag

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GoodK,

A couple follow up questions. When you said "contribution" you mean financial right? Or are you saying he's submitted material? If he's actually been published in FARMS, I hope I find out who he is. Not for the reasons some might think, but to make sure I skip any pieces by him entirely, I don't even want to read them.

The thought of a self-righteous Mormon "teacher of ethics on a college level" sitting in his study conjuring up pseudoscience to submit to the FROB to make the "golden Bible" seem more legitimate while his son is locked away in an institution because of some of the more typical teenager issues makes me sick.

For people who have the money to do it, it's much easier to send the kids away so they can pursue their hobbies.

The other question was, can you clarify who was having a beer with who, and what kind of beer it was?
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Re: The Mormon Gulag

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This is all possible.


It is also possible that every child who claims they were abused is just making up stories, that every survivor of torture is lying, that victims of all the horrible crimes over the centuries of human experience have just been pretending.

So?

~td~
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_Jersey Girl
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Re: The Mormon Gulag

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Eeeking my way back in here...I think it would be a good idea to hear GoodK out on this topic. Let him share whatever it is he feels of a mind to, answer our questions and evalute from there.

Eeeking my way back out now....
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Re: The Mormon Gulag

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GoodK wrote:

I know exactly why I was sent there.

1. My step-dad was Mormon and another boy from our stake was sent there.

2. I refused to go to seminary or church.

3. He caught me violating the laws of chastity and the word of wisdom.

Basically...


I know you aren't going to say this and perhaps not think it either, and it won't help you with your relationship with your step dad however...I can't imagine any parent who cares about their child sending him/her to another state for 2 years to some reform school such that they'd rarely see them during that time. I can however imagine a step parent or a parent who doesn't care about their child, who wants to get rid of their spouse's kid for example doing so. This is why it sickened me when your dad came on the board because he had absolutely no right to talk as if he was a caring parent. When I first heard of your story, my first impression was and still is, that he used your teenage rebellion as an excuse for his own ends. If he truly cared he would have at the very least wanted you close by, to keep in contact and close tabs to verify that you were indeed being helped or counselled properly. But no, he sends you far away from family, your mom and sister and friends.

As I said once in a previous post, he owes you big time.
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Re: The Mormon Gulag

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marg
I can however imagine a step parent or a parent who doesn't care about their child, who wants to get rid of their spouse's kid for example doing so.


It would have to depend largely on the presence or absence of a healthy emotional bond between child and step.
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Re: The Mormon Gulag

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truth dancer wrote:
This is all possible.


It is also possible that every child who claims they were abused is just making up stories, that every survivor of torture is lying, that victims of all the horrible crimes over the centuries of human experience have just been pretending.

So?

~td~


We should all know by now that only TBMs have a right to persecution stories.
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably.
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_Daniel Peterson
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Re: The Mormon Gulag

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truth dancer wrote:It is also possible that every child who claims they were abused is just making up stories, that every survivor of torture is lying, that victims of all the horrible crimes over the centuries of human experience have just been pretending.

No, that's not possible.

Please try to be serious.

I note, with interest, that Gad's pretended Scartcholeptic compulsion to tie this in with FARMS has now taken a more specific form, in which he attempts to link it specifically with the FARMS Review (which, expert on it though he is, he continues to refer to by a title that it dropped several years ago).

Pokatator wrote:We should all know by now that only TBMs have a right to persecution stories.

Peekatooter shouldn't try to be intellectually serious. The strain might kill him.
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Re: The Mormon Gulag

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Gadianton wrote:If he's actually been published in FARMS, I hope I find out who he is. Not for the reasons some might think, but to make sure I skip any pieces by him entirely, I don't even want to read them.

The thought of a self-righteous Mormon "teacher of ethics on a college level" sitting in his study conjuring up pseudoscience to submit to the FROB to make the "golden Bible" seem more legitimate while his son is locked away in an institution because of some of the more typical teenager issues makes me sick.

For people who have the money to do it, it's much easier to send the kids away so they can pursue their hobbies.

This is a marvelous post.

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Re: The Mormon Gulag

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The former prophet of the Mormon church, Gordon B. Hinckley, has mentioned "bulletins" he receives from the Utah Boys Ranch.


http://www.mormongulag.com/

So the Church supports this? Unofficially, perhaps?

Some more information is supplied in This Link.
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_Jersey Girl
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Re: The Mormon Gulag

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GoodK,

Horror Stories #1. Before clicking open the actual entry. What is that photographic image to the right?

Be specific, please.
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