Scratch, DCP, and the IRS

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_Jersey Girl
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Re: Scratch, DCP, and the IRS

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Rollo Tomasi wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:What evidence do you have, in addition to the tax forms, that corroborates that "appearance"?

The evidence to which I was referring was the FARMS 1998 Form 990 (with Schedule A).


Rollo,

With all due respect, if you have no other evidence to corroborate the assertions regarding the tax form, what you have here is a 16 page pissing contest.

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Jersey Girl wrote:With all due respect, if you have no other evidence to corroborate the assertions regarding the tax form, what you have here is a 16 page pissing contest.


That gave my lungs some early morning exercise.
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Ray A wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:With all due respect, if you have no other evidence to corroborate the assertions regarding the tax form, what you have here is a 16 page pissing contest.


That gave my lungs some early morning exercise.


Wow. I could take that in any number of ways. Yelling? Laughing? Singing the blues for the pissing contestants?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wow. I could take that in any number of ways. Yelling? Laughing? Singing the blues for the pissing contestants?


Too early to yell, and there's no one to yell at. Singing isn't my forté.
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Jersey Girl wrote:With all due respect, if you have no other evidence to corroborate the assertions regarding the tax form, what you have here is a 16 page pissing contest.

From the very first post, this thread has been about the tax form.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:With all due respect, if you have no other evidence to corroborate the assertions regarding the tax form, what you have here is a 16 page pissing contest.

From the very first post, this thread has been about the tax form.


No kidding, Rollo, and as I implied, without any sort of corroborating evidences what you've got is a 16 page pissing contest that amounts to exactly nothing.
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It goes on.

And on and on and on.

(One of the most obvious manifestations of acute Scartcholepsy is obsessiveness. Scartcholeptics cannot let a defamatory accusation die. And they'll commonly bring old defamatory accusations up again in new, utterly irrelevant, contexts. There is, as yet, no known cure.)

Rollo Tomasi wrote:It's very plausible because it's the truth.

It's not plausible and it's not the truth.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:I have no evidence you are lying; ergo, I believe you are mistaken.

You're mistaken. I believe you're sincere, though.

Sad.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:I believed I had evidence you were lying.

I imagine that you were more or less sincere in that, too.

Is there an American Scartcholepsy Foundation "Walk for the Cure" program going on anywhere over the next few weeks? I would encourage all here to participate, if they can. This is a disease that ruins lives. "A mind," says ASF's slogan, "is a terrible thing to lay waste."

Rollo Tomasi wrote:I don't know if it was "extra." Perhaps just FARMS paid you $20K, and the rest came from BYU.

You're so near, and yet so far.

As I've been saying, it wasn't extra. As I've also been saying, FARMS put a certain amount into the payment of my salary, and the rest came from my BYU department.

And as I've also been saying, this wasn't for my services as chairman of the FARMS board. This was for my services as director and editor of the Middle Eastern Texts Initiative.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:The Form 990 says what it says.

But what it says is, according to Jason Bourne, compatible with what I say.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:It appears you did in fact get $20K from FARMS for your services as board chair, which most certainly involved apologetics.

I received $3K for my services as board chair, which were entirely administrative and involved neither apologetic writing or speaking.

You're simply wrong.

But you're Scartcholeptically persistent.
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Ray A wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wow. I could take that in any number of ways. Yelling? Laughing? Singing the blues for the pissing contestants?


Too early to yell, and there's no one to yell at. Singing isn't my forté.


My pleasure to entertain you, Ray.
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Jersey Girl wrote:No kidding, Rollo, and as I implied, without any sort of corroborating evidences what you've got is a 16 page pissing contest that amounts to exactly nothing.

As you wish, but, for me, a publicly-filed document signed under oath and penalities of perjury, means a lot more than "exactly nothing." But that's just me ....
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Daniel Peterson wrote:As I've been saying, it wasn't extra. As I've also been saying, FARMS put a certain amount into the payment of my salary, and the rest came from my BYU department.

I don't disagree with you here. I've never said that $20K was "extra," and have always believed you were paid what you regularly received, but that FARMS paid $20K of your salary that year for your work as board chair.

And as I've also been saying, this wasn't for my services as chairman of the FARMS board. This was for my services as director and editor of the Middle Eastern Texts Initiative.

The Form 990 says otherwise.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:The Form 990 says what it says.

But what it says is, according to Jason Bourne, compatible with what I say.

Nope. You said you were not paid the $20K for your services as board chair, while the Form 990 expressly states that you were.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:It appears you did in fact get $20K from FARMS for your services as board chair, which most certainly involved apologetics.

I received $3K for my services as board chair, which were entirely administrative and involved neither apologetic writing or speaking.

That's not what the Form 990 says.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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