As for The Miracle of Forgiveness, that is where SWK shows his, in some aspects, "religious zeal". In spite of this, he remains, for me anyway, the most important and influential Mormon leader of the 20th century. Imagine overturning almost two centuries of embedded religious tradition. Now that is what I call "prophetic".
As an aside, if you have read the bio his son recently did on the years SWK was church president you may know this. But in it he says his father expressed concerns that in MOF he had been to harsh.
Inconceivable wrote: I have found it inspiring that on the day of his horrific death, Jesus had the capacity to heal a soldier's injury, ask forgiveness of His Roman assailants and even promise to be with two thieves in paradise.
But then upon the moment of His death (or exactly 1 year after, whatever), he literally lays waste to cities of hundreds of thousands of wicked men, women and (innocent) children in the Western Hemisphere and islands fo the sea.
These people didn't just fall asleep. They were slaughtered: burned, slowly suffocated, mutilated, drowned and crushed. Including children.
If the Mormon God's Jesus is justified in orchestrating such a cleansing of the earth, it should not be surprising that BKP would encourage yet another timely smackdown.
In what aspect does BKP wants to be like Jesus?
Hey Inc
You ever read the Book of Revelation? Keep in mind that the Jesus there that is going to send unseen destruction on the world is the same one you are talking about above. The Bible Jesus is not all lovey dovey. Read the whole New Testament man. Also, for a lovely read on how a good part of the Christian world understands the end times as told in Revelation, Daniel and other Bible passages read the Left Behind Series. Quite a blood and horror future awaits according to one view of the end times from the Bible.
mentalgymnast wrote:The children may not have kept their innocence being raised in a corrupt/wicked society. Would that have been a good thing? Did Jesus have the capacity to reverse engineer the wickedness of a society who had chosen wickedness over righteousness? It may have been a blessing to not let things carry on the way they were where the children would continue to take on the same attributes as their parents.
Regards, MG
So... you advocate the wholesale killing of children, because their parents were unrighteous? How does that line up with the 2nd Article of Faith?
Jason Bourne wrote:As an aside, if you have read the bio his son recently did on the years SWK was church president you may know this. But in it he says his father expressed concerns that in MOF he had been to harsh.
I didn't read that one, Jason, but thanks for that information. Would it be accurate to say he repented of the Miracle of Forgiveness? (I'm only joking)
mentalgymnast wrote:From where you sit today looking back at that time/place, what would you have done differently?
Regards, MG
God's words are filtered through whoever has the pen at the time, MG. It's always men holding that pen. All the scriptures tell us is what the men at the time want us to know. It's up to us to take that which is valuable to us and use it, and disregard the rest.
There's that filter at work. Perception/experience. It varies from person to person doesn't it?
Jason Bourne wrote:As an aside, if you have read the bio his son recently did on the years SWK was church president you may know this. But in it he says his father expressed concerns that in MOF he had been to harsh.
I didn't read that one, Jason, but thanks for that information. Would it be accurate to say he repented of the Miracle of Forgiveness? (I'm only joking)
We often mellow with age. BKP included. Hey, I wonder if the 3 Nephites have mellowed with age?
mentalgymnast wrote:What would you have done to save the children?
Regards, MG
I would allow them to work out their own salvation. To do otherwise would be grossly unfair.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
I understand your point and it's a good one if I yet believed the standard works. I pay little to no attention to my dreams anymore. John should have tossed his as well.
MG,
If the words coming out of your mouth were a color they would be black. I drew the exact conclusion you have expressed when I was a Mormon. I actually thought God inspired my (this) thought process. Shame on me for placing such little value upon human life.
My conclusion is that the Bible and Mormon God is a deadbeat parent. He could go a long way by teaching a little patience and self control.
When the Bible or Mormon God wants to make a point His message doesn't seem much different than one Al Capone would send.