No such thing as Moses

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Re: No such thing as Moses

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Calculus Crusader wrote: And the events of the Exodus are consonant with the Ipuwer Papyrus.


Really?

“the association of Ipuwer with the Exodus is generally rejected by Egyptologists..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipuwer_papyrus
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Re: No such thing as Moses

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TAK wrote:
Calculus Crusader wrote: And the events of the Exodus are consonant with the Ipuwer Papyrus.


Really?

“the association of Ipuwer with the Exodus is generally rejected by Egyptologists..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipuwer_papyrus


Yes, really, hayseed. While I am supremely impressed by your ability to google "Ipuwer Papyrus," the fact remains that I can read the English translation myself and come to my own conclusion. There is nothing scientific about the citation you lifted from google.
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Re: No such thing as Moses

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Calculus Crusader wrote:
Yes, really, hayseed. While I am supremely impressed by your ability to google "Ipuwer Papyrus," the fact remains that I can read the English translation myself and come to my own conclusion. There is nothing scientific about the citation you lifted from google.


He lifted it from Wiki. Please be a little more clever. Thanks!
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Re: No such thing as Moses

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Calculus Crusader wrote:Yes, really, hayseed. While I am supremely impressed by your ability to google "Ipuwer Papyrus," the fact remains that I can read the English translation myself and come to my own conclusion. There is nothing scientific about the citation you lifted from google.


Why not counter or disprove the point with your own googling.. Can prove that the association of Ipuwer with the Exodus is generally ACCEPTED by Egyptologists ?? Or anybody with credentials?

Or should we just take your ability to read as proof?
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Re: No such thing as Moses

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So, in other words, since you wish the Ipuwer Papyrus to make the Exodus remain plausible, it does so to you. Ok.

If that's all you can muster, a single copy of an Egyptian poem which somewhat vaguely bears some similarity with the story of the Exodus, despite no other archeological data supporting the Exodus, either on the Egyptian side, nor on the Caananite side, then all I can say is that the Exodus remains extremely dubious, and therefor Moses, its central character, must remain dubious as well.

I hardly think any of this counts as reasons why we should assume that Moses's existence is more likely than his non-existence.
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Re: No such thing as Moses

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antishock8 wrote:He lifted it from Wiki. Please be a little more clever. Thanks!


Why use a bat when a toothpick works fine..
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Re: No such thing as Moses

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Sethbag wrote:So, in other words, since you wish the Ipuwer Papyrus to make the Exodus remain plausible, it does so to you. Ok.

If that's all you can muster, a single copy of an Egyptian poem which somewhat vaguely bears some similarity with the story of the Exodus, despite no other archeological data supporting the Exodus, either on the Egyptian side, nor on the Caananite side, then all I can say is that the Exodus remains extremely dubious, and therefor Moses, its central character, must remain dubious as well.

I hardly think any of this counts as reasons why we should assume that Moses's existence is more likely than his non-existence.


I wrote that the Ipuwer Papyrus was consonant with the events detailed in Exodus, not that it proved it. Also, we know that Egyptians had a tendency to purge embarrassing episodes from their history.
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Re: No such thing as Moses

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TAK wrote:
antishock8 wrote:He lifted it from Wiki. Please be a little more clever. Thanks!


Why use a bat when a toothpick works fine..


You wield a toothpick because that is all you are able to wield.
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Re: No such thing as Moses

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Calculus Crusader wrote:You wield a toothpick because that is all you are able to wield.


Actually, that's all that's apparently needed to bat down your contention..
So you have no one to point to that supports your feelings .. ??
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Re: No such thing as Moses

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TAK,

You already proved you are a low-watt bulb in our previous exchange concerning Goedel. Now, you are just being gratuitous.
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