antishock8 wrote:Resist the urget to infantalize/patronize women, RayA. That's Mormonism manifesting itself.
Not really. It's a father with two daughters manifesting itself.
I understand. I'm raising two daughters myself. I suppose I take more of a male approach to rearing them than a female approach. They're wonderful kids. The point is girls and women can expect and be held to the same standard as boys and men... And meet it. But I understand the urge to aggress on an aggressive male. It's natural.
If someone uses the ignore feature, will that stop others vilifying them?
So let me get this. I put poster "Z" on ignore, and poster "Z" continues to vilify me on the board, and everyone else absorbs poster "Z's" gossip and innuendo and slander and sexual intimidation, but I don't see it.
Do Ostrich head and sand make any connections here?
Moniker wrote:[MODERATOR NOTE: Quoted material deleted due to original author's deletion of same material]
Yeah I did. I screwed up. I'm sorry. I've apologized numerous times to you Moniker for this. Not sure what is right, but here I admit I did it.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
Moniker, I dealt with all of those issues the best way I knew how. They happened months ago.
The reason they were not brought up publicly is because those issues had been addressed by me with you PRIVATELY, and, out of courtesy to you, I was keeping it that way.
This cybersex chat thing you mentioned was NOT something that everyone was aware of, Moniker. And, frankly, I was not a witness of it. I have taken you at your word that it happened, and I believe that it did.
However, Zack has apologized to you profusely on multiple occasions for what happened. I'm not sure what more he can do.
PP is a jackass half the time, and will never apologize.
AND, I DID step in and give PP hell when he called you a bitch in chat (an incident that I did witness). PP left the board for a while because I called him on the carpet regarding his behavior, and he was angry with me for doing so.
When harassment occurs, it is handled on an individual basis. And, we try to handle things as privately as possible. I would not be speaking about any of this had you not brought it up publicly.
I will not say more because I would be breaking confidences with you if I did. However, I will say that I have spent hours of time supporting you, deleting posts at your request, and have always been in your corner.
I feel that your allegations against my behavior are uncalled for.
“All knowledge of reality starts from experience and ends in it...Propositions arrived at by purely logical means are completely empty as regards reality." - Albert Einstein
Moniker wrote:[MODERATOR NOTE: Quoted material deleted due to original author's deletion of same material]
As I was yours. One “F” up that I apologized for a year ago was apparently enough to end this friendship. What else is there to say? Guess it wasn't much of a friendship. *shrugs*
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
Moniker wrote:18 months ago? This happened just a few months ago??? This was in July, I'm fairly certain. I can double check our PMs, yet, this happened and I left the board again soon after.
Really? I thought it happened at least a year ago. Maybe I'm wrong.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
Moniker wrote:You're very wrong about this. A year ago I wasn't even "Moniker". :)
Yeah I guess. I thought it was long ago. Guess it wasn't. I try not to dwell on the f****ups I do in life, except to learn the lesson of not doing them again.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
Moniker wrote:I should probably delete all this..... and people wonder why I delete posts like crazy!
Should I delete it? yah, probably. Dammit. You know the bad thing is that when I try to defend myself I'm still trying to protect someone else. It's assured mutual destruction, isn't it?
Let me just say this. Whatever I've done that was wrong I am sorry for and I apologize. Yet, I never deserved the constant attacks or come ons from strangers on this board. I'm getting PMs saying to talk about all of them. I'll stop now.
Rest assured though, all is not well in Zion/a.k.a. Shades board.
Don't delete.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.