Women and the Priesthood--Question for DCP

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Daniel Peterson wrote:I lived through the period, and was acutely, if not painfully, aware of things.

There was much more external pressure to change the priesthood policy in 1968 than there was in 1978.


I don’t know if that is exactly true as I lived through it too..

Regardless, as a society it was much easier in 1968 to harbor racial opinions such as the Churches than it was in 1978. By 1988 or 1998 it would have been untenable and I think Church leaders saw tide was against them.

I also would not discount the Churches inability to discern the seed of Cain in its South American members as a reason.
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TAK wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:I lived through the period, and was acutely, if not painfully, aware of things.

There was much more external pressure to change the priesthood policy in 1968 than there was in 1978.

I don’t know if that is exactly true as I lived through it too..

Then our perceptions were dramatically, radically different.

I think I could demonstrate that my perception is correct, but I don't care enough to expend the effort.



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Daniel Peterson wrote: Then our perceptions were dramatically, radically different.

I think I could demonstrate that my perception is correct, but I don't care enough to expend the effort.



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By all means explain how societies view of race subsided between 1968 and 1978 ..
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TAK wrote:By all means explain how societies view of race subsided between 1968 and 1978 ..

Only if you can convince me that that's even slightly relevant to what I said.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
TAK wrote:By all means explain how societies view of race subsided between 1968 and 1978 ..

Only if you can convince me that that's even slightly relevant to what I said.


In one regard you are correct that pressure on BYU subsided to some extent but that is largely attributed to the fact that around 1970 after pressure from other schools BYU began to allow blacks to attend and play sports.
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TAK wrote:In one regard you are correct that pressure on BYU subsided to some extent but that is largely attributed to the fact that around 1970 after pressure from other schools BYU began to allow blacks to attend and play sports.

I said nothing about BYU.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
TAK wrote:By all means explain how societies view of race subsided between 1968 and 1978 ..

Only if you can convince me that that's even slightly relevant to what I said.


From an earlier post:
There was much more external pressure to change the priesthood policy in 1968 than there was in 1978.

I would gather from this statement that there was less pressure in 1978 than 1968. Thus societies view of race diminished in that decade?
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Scottie wrote:I would gather from this statement that there was less pressure in 1978 than 1968. Thus societies view of race diminished in that decade?

What you "gather" is correct, but it doesn't entail your "thus."
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Daniel Peterson wrote:I said nothing about BYU.


BS. .You referred to it..

Scottie wrote :
You seriously think, even though the entire nation was on an anti-racism movement, that BYU sports was the only reason that the church abandoned it policies? I believe it was the catalyst that started it, but there is no doubt the church was under enormous pressure, whether direct or indirect, to change the ban.

You replied in the next post:

I lived through the period, and was acutely, if not painfully, aware of things.

There was much more external pressure to change the priesthood policy in 1968 than there was in 1978.
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I said nothing about BYU.
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