Stunning, sobering truths. Yes, you will be stunned.

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Re: Stunning, sobering truths. Yes, you will be stunned.

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I would posit that a woman is not covenant keeping woman unless she is a demon in the sack.


So much for the book, Sister Dew is going to hell.
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Re: Stunning, sobering truths. Yes, you will be stunned.

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bcspace wrote:Since you guys have so many sexual hang-ups.....


A sexual hang-up is when you think Satan makes you masturbate, and you'll be damned forever for wanking the willy.
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Re: Stunning, sobering truths. Yes, you will be stunned.

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rcrocket wrote:
cinepro wrote:(Note: I'm not commenting on whether or not those claims are actually "true" or not. I am only debating whether anyone finds them stunning, sobering, or flinch-worthy.)


I wonder if someday you will reap what you sow for all the subtle mocking you do of the Church and its culture at nearly every post. And for somebody who voted "yes" on Prop 8. Dude, you must really be internally conflicted.


Do you really equate Sheri Dew's book (and the Deseret marketing materials) as being "the Church"? Really? Would you feel the same way about someone laughing at a Moroni Christmas tree topper? Did you feel the same way about the Halestorm movies (i.e. The Singles Ward, The RM).

I find your comment baffling on many different levels. Especially since the cornerstone of modern LDS apologetics is the belief that stuff published by Deseret isn't doctrinal or representative of "Church Teachings", but is only the opinions of the authors. Have I really written anything more disrespectful in this thread than the frequent apologetic claim that Apostles' and Prophets' published works through Deseret Book are just their private, optional opinions that don't carry any more weight than the musings of a creative Gospel Doctrine teacher?

I'm especially curious about your bringing Prop 8 into the discussion...? If an anti or critic introduced such a drastic non sequitur into a conversation, you would have a field day.

Curiouser and curiouser. And CFR that we shouldn't make fun of Deseret Book marketing materials.
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I would posit that a woman is not covenant keeping woman unless she is a demon in the sack. I would also posit that a man is not a covenant keeping man unless he pleases his wife in every way.


Well, then the brethren better put some new lesson material into their priesthood manuals; maybe a talk or two in GC would be a good idea.

Funny how so many guys complain about their wives lack of sexuality assuming they are somehow a fabulous lover.

:wink:

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Gadianton wrote:
I would posit that a woman is not covenant keeping woman unless she is a demon in the sack.


So much for the book, Sister Dew is going to hell.


I think bcspace forgot that Sister Dew is single.
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Re: Stunning, sobering truths. Yes, you will be stunned.

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cinepro wrote:In a recent ad for Sheri Dew's new book, "Saying it Like it Is", Deseret claims we will find truths inside. But not just your normal, everyday truths. No, Sheri has written truths that are both "stunning" and "sobering". She is "unflinching" as well.

Thankfully, the ad includes examples of some of these truths, so I didn't have to spend my $16.16 to be stunned and sobered.

Such as:


“When we come to understand not only who we are but who we have always been— and therefore who we may become— the choice between following Christ or embracing the world is really no choice at all.”

“The only way to be happy is to live the gospel. It is not possible to sin enough to be happy.”

“We are here to influence the world rather than to be influenced by the world. If we could unleash the full influence of covenant- keeping women, the kingdom of God would change overnight.”


(Note: I'm not commenting on whether or not those claims are actually "true" or not. I am only debating whether anyone finds them stunning, sobering, or flinch-worthy.)


Admin;
Please do not delete this post.
But this woman,
could use a good Lay.
That is the message I get from her book.

I mean look at her desperate (words) Pleas;
Embracing Christ, between, overnight, keeping women, unleash, happy, possible to sin, full, grown....
What else do we need to understand this woman?
Don't look at me though! I'm married and have a jaleous wife.
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Re: Stunning, sobering truths. Yes, you will be stunned.

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solomarineris wrote:
Admin;
Please do not delete this post.
But this woman,
could use a good Lay.
That is the message I get from her book.

I mean look at her desperate (words) Pleas;
Embracing Christ, between, overnight, keeping women, unleash, happy, possible to sin, full, grown....
What else do we need to understand this woman?
Don't look at me though! I'm married and have a jaleous wife.


Well, now I'm stunned. I mean really, that's the message you get? Don't think there might be a little projection there?

Maybe this ad is like a rorschach test, where I see overblown, breathless marketing just begging to be mocked, RCrockett sees the entire Church and its culture at stake, and others just see a woman who they diagnose as undersexed. :question:
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Re: Stunning, sobering truths. Yes, you will be stunned.

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cinepro wrote:Do you really equate Sheri Dew's book (and the Deseret marketing materials) as being "the Church"?


It is just the opinion of one poster, me. And, I am no expert.
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Re: Stunning, sobering truths. Yes, you will be stunned.

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Ray A wrote:
bcspace wrote:Since you guys have so many sexual hang-ups.....


A sexual hang-up is when you think Satan makes you masturbate, and you'll be damned forever for wanking the willy.
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I would agree that would also be a hang-up. Luckily I don't believe such a thing.
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Re: Stunning, sobering truths. Yes, you will be stunned.

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truth dancer wrote:
I would posit that a woman is not covenant keeping woman unless she is a demon in the sack. I would also posit that a man is not a covenant keeping man unless he pleases his wife in every way.


Well, then the brethren better put some new lesson material into their priesthood manuals; maybe a talk or two in GC would be a good idea.

Funny how so many guys complain about their wives lack of sexuality assuming they are somehow a fabulous lover.

:wink:

~td~


How hard is it to talk about this stuff? For crying out loud, if one partner is not satisfied don't you have a strong enough relationship to explain that to the other person?
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