Building the FARMS Ziggurat

[_The Dude]

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Translation:

Will, do you think Kimberly is as hot as Katherine the Great?

[_beastie]

And I still say that Kimberly looks pretty damn hot for a thirty-something mother of 4. You go, girl! I may not agree with your opinions when it comes to religion, but I admire many of the things you're doing in your life. I think you deserve the compliments you receive, even though beastlie doesn’t seem to see what I say in that light.

No one said that KA didn't deserve compliments.

I am extremely skeptical that your wife would feel loved and respected were she to read the type of things you say to and about women on this board. You can insist otherwise as much as you like, but those of us who weren't born yesterday have a right to remain skeptical of your assurances.

[_William Schryver]

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Translation:

Will, do you think Kimberly is as hot as Katherine the Great?

The Dude!

I knew if I mentioned your name, you'd come running. How are things? Did you bit the Big Apple? Good. Don't mind the maggots.

As for your question, the answer is simple: as much as I like ktg, in her uptight, seemingly sexually-frustrated way, I still have to say that Kimberly Ann is orders of magnitude hotter, apostate or not.

Sorry, ktg, but facts is facts ...

[_William Schryver]

And I still say that Kimberly looks pretty damn hot for a thirty-something mother of 4. You go, girl! I may not agree with your opinions when it comes to religion, but I admire many of the things you're doing in your life. I think you deserve the compliments you receive, even though beastlie doesn’t seem to see what I say in that light.

No one said that KA didn't deserve compliments.

I am extremely skeptical that your wife would feel loved and respected were she to read the type of things you say to and about women on this board. You can insist otherwise as much as you like, but those of us who weren't born yesterday have a right to remain skeptical of your assurances.

beastlie dear,

We've been over this ground before. My dearly beloved is quite in tune with her man. She insists on me reading my posts to her, so that she can laugh along with me at the hypocritical nature of the typical female apostate (not like you, KA) who is so prone to find fault with any allegedly faithful Latter-day Saint who is not wracked with sexual hangups, as you and so many of your cohorts seem to be.

You see, my dear Belinda is not threatened by my reading (and enjoying) Kimberly's blog entry concerning her cosmetic surgery (great blog, KA!) nor by my being able to, without shame or any embarrassment whatsoever, tell KA that she made a good call.

Why are you so uptight, my dear? I thought your liberation from Mormonism might have freed you from all your prior hangups, but you're still clinging to them like a bad habit. Weird.

[_beastie]

Yes, I remember your protests very well, that your wife reads and enjoys all your flirtatious, semi-lewd comments to other women. You assured us then that she reads all of your posts, and approves of them ahead of time. Does she watch your chats as well? I didn't believe it then, and I still don't believe it now.

I know what love and respect is, because I've experienced it for nearly 12 years now. What you do ain't it, and that observation has nothing to do with "sexual hang-ups". What you do disrespects your wife, and if, on the very slim chance you're actually telling the truth about her condoning your behavior, it's because she feels that she doesn't have any choice, which is tragic.

[_William Schryver]

Yes, I remember your protests very well, that your wife reads and enjoys all your flirtatious, semi-lewd comments to other women. You assured us then that she reads all of your posts, and approves of them ahead of time. Does she watch your chats as well? I didn't believe it then, and I still don't believe it now.

I know what love and respect is, because I've experienced it for nearly 12 years now. What you do ain't it, and that observation has nothing to do with "sexual hang-ups". What you do disrespects your wife, and if, on the very slim chance you're actually telling the truth about her condoning your behavior, it's because she feels that she doesn't have any choice, which is tragic.

She probably has a different conception of "lewd" than you apparently do.

Wow, you really have serious issues, don't you? You do realize that there is competent professional help available for these kinds of problems, right?
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Well, Mrs. Schryver just read this post of yours, sighed, put on her eye shade, settled into her pillow, tucked the blankets around her neck, and said, "Why do you even bother talking with people like that? That woman is probably judging all men by the standards of whatever bad experiences she's had, or whatever bad decisions she made in the past. She certainly knows nothing about what trust in a relationship really means. I'll bet the man she's with now was picked on the basis of how easy it was for her to control him."

And, with that, her commentary ended.

Simple, profound, to the point -- all I can say is she's rarely, if ever, wrong.

[_beastie]

Will,

Sorry. You may be an actor, but you ain't that good. It's not working.

[_Ray A]

Well, Mrs. Schryver just read this post of yours, sighed, put on her eye shade, settled into her pillow, tucked the blankets around her neck, and said, "Why do you even bother talking with people like that? That woman is probably judging all men by the standards of whatever bad experiences she's had, or whatever bad decisions she made in the past. She certainly knows nothing about what trust in a relationship really means. I'll bet the man she's with now was picked on the basis of how easy it was for her to control him."

And, with that, her commentary ended.

Simple, profound, to the point -- all I can say is she's rarely, if ever, wrong.

So she agrees with your comment that KA is "hot"? And your blatant sexual flattery of KA? Yeah, I can just see David O. McKay saying to his wife, "don't you agree that Mark E. Petersen's wife is HOT".

You are one screwed up Mormon cookie.

[_William Schryver]

Will,

Sorry. You may be an actor, but you ain't that good. It's not working.

What do you want, beastlie, a freaking notarized letter, with picture ID and a fingerprint?

I think perhaps Belinda hit the nail on the head: she saw what only one woman could see in another woman. You're a control freak. At least now you are. Sure, you probably had a bastard of a first husband, and I'm really sorry about that. Men who don't respect and adore their women aren't worthy to have a woman at their side.

But, more likely than not, her assessment of the situation is spot on: your reaction to the first mistake was to find someone you could dominate psychologically and probably intellectually, too. That way, you are guaranteed of holding the reins all the time.

Well, guess what, my dear -- that's not trust and respect. That's distrust set in stone, and disrespect in the form of faithless control.

If it works for you and your man, more power to you. But it's not how I would choose to live, and my bet is that most women would not prefer a man who was so easily dominated and so willingly disrespected.

[_beastie]

So she agrees with your comment that KA is "hot"? And your blatant sexual flattery of KA? Yeah, I can just see David O. McKay saying to his wife, "don't you agree that Mark E. Petersen's wife is HOT".

You are one screwed up Mormon cookie.

And don't forget, she agrees with Will's comments on how pleased he would be to see KA in a t-shirt, and, If I recall correctly, how he couldn't take his eyes of her chest when they met. And I wonder about what may have been said in chats that she condoned.

LOL! Will is far too enamored of his own acting abilities. I doubt he's convinced anyone but himself.