Here is the Plan...

[_Imwashingmypirate]

I thought my plan was funnier :( It's in the telestial forum.

[_why me]

Hi Walmart..

Yes, except that a point of the board is to have minimal moderating. I'm thinking we could all moderate ourselves. I know, a novel concept! LOL!

Why do we expect Shades and the mods to clean up our mess?

It is sort of like children needing to work out their arguments without parents stepping in... (well, except for my mommy post putting a few children in time out)!

Yes, I know the vision. But during my absence from these boards it does seem like the moderating became more hands on. I think that we need moderation every now and then when people begin to lose themselves as just happened on this board.

I have also noticed that hatred is pretty high here. Why? I have no idea but the hatred is pretty bad. Back in the old days the hatred was also pretty bad and it came out in the antimormon posters toward the LDS church and the LDS posters. But these posters went the way of wind.

Now...the board has lost control with threats being made and acted upon. Time for the founder and creator to appear with words of wisdom.

[_Ray A]

I have also noticed that hatred is pretty high here. Why? I have no idea but the hatred is pretty bad. Back in the old days he hatred was also pretty bad and it came out in the antimormon posters toward the LDS church and the LDS posters. But these posters went the way of wind.

Sorry, why me, but I find it much worse on MAD, and I'll explain with a quote from Hoffer:

A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around them but also against their own selves. The fanatical believer is not conscious of his envy, malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall of words between his consciousness and his real self.

[_why me]

Sorry, why me, but I find it much worse on MAD, and I'll explain with a quote from Hoffer:

A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around them but also against their own selves. The fanatical believer is not conscious of his envy, malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall of words between his consciousness and his real self.

Your quotation Ray is very postmodern in tone. The devout usually believe in a certain truth. And post-modernists are against defined truth, especially by religionists. But it is only natural for the devout to defend what they believe and that is what one finds on MAD. Hoffer encloses his anti-modernity by enwrapping his words with negatives toward the devout.

[_Ray A]

Your quotation Ray is very postmodern in tone. The devout usually believe in a certain truth. And post-modernists are against defined truth, especially by religionists. But it is only natural for the devout to defend what they believe and that is what one finds on MAD. Hoffer encloses his anti-modernity by enwrapping his words with negatives toward the devout.

No, not the devout, the fanatical. I have little problem with the devoutness of many Mormons I know.

It's the fanatics we need to watch. More from Hoffer:

Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both.

The fanatical grievance is actually envy. Envy that they have to work so hard to "get to heaven", jealous of those who don't take it seriously, fearful that they might be mistaken (thus frequent and often public self-assurances) and live with the awful thought that God might actually redeem the heathen. "It's not fair!"

To them, God is human, and not shy of slaughtering the unbelievers to appease their sense of "justice". "We worked so hard; now we can spend eternity watching the unbelievers burn in hell."

[_Maxrep]

No more cruelty toward other board participants.


~td~

For those of you who know Darin from Mad, its hard to find him anything but likable. After reading the following thread, I was surprised at how mean spirited certain folk could be, and saw a harsh side of Wade. Darin got raked over the coals, personal information exposed, pretty dark thread. Darin finally requested the thread be closed - yes it was cruel.

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=42572

I hope there is a way to persuade people to adopt the golden rule online.

[_Dr. Shades]

Time for the founder and creator to appear with words of wisdom.

Here I am, and here they are:

Please take a look at this post. In it, I said the following:

[BEGIN QUOTE]

"When this board incarnated its second time (it's currently on its third incarnation), I posted a bolded and highlighted message at the top of the rules page. It went something like this:

'This message board is a free speech zone. As such, by reading and participating on this board, you hereby waive your right to pursue legal action against anyone for any reason.'

Now, why did I put up such a unique rule? I did it because I strongly believe that the threat of lawsuits would serve to stifle free speech (hear me out) almost as much as a trigger-happy moderator would, whereas a lawsuit-free zone would foster free speech just as much.

I dropped that rule when our attorney informed us that it was legally untenable and, even if it weren't, it'd bind our hands against any malicious hacker who sought to do us harm (or something like that)."

[END QUOTE]

Now, I'm not thrilled about any of this. But, at the end of the day, should someone be banned for merely announcing something that they're planning on doing in real life? Is the alternative to just let a hammer drop in real life, absent any prior chances to hash things out with everyone else and possibly come to some sort of understanding beforehand?

[_Inconceivable]

..Jesus..
..Jesus..

OK, that ought to do it!
~td~

Thanks for the reminder, TD.

Fictional character or a God, there's plenty of love and kindness that comes from that direction.

Hey Shades,

Any thoughts on renaming the board Jesus Discussions?

Boy, would that shake up the member base or what?

Regardless, I still think things will be fine. Thanks for hanging in there.