Scratch's Sudden Departure

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But in his post on April 11 at 6:14 p.m., Scratch denied ever being a student at the USC law school.




Yes, but Scratch has shown himself, over the last three years, to be a near pathological liar, as well as a clearly paranoid demagogue. What does anything Scratch says demonstrate about anything Scratch actually is or does?
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Ray A wrote:If someone doesn't tell me who Scratch is before I die, I'll have to postpone my death.


I very much sympathize, Ray. Very much.
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Droopy wrote:Yes, but Scratch has shown himself, over the last three years, to be a near pathological liar, as well as a clearly paranoid demagogue.


Drippy simply cannot abide being bested at his own game.
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My simple point was this: Those who accuse me of causing a rupture between GoodK and his stepfather over something with which I have no legitimate concern and of which I have no knowledge whatsoever should understand, before they leap to condemn me, that GoodK's stepfather and I have known each other for more than two decades and that the troubled relationship between GoodK and his stepdad had been a topic of conversation between us at several points over that period.


You know, I remember the original thread(s) in which this entire soap opera began. I posted a great deal in it myslef, and was, at the time, somewhat sympathetic to GoodK, given that I had no personal knowledge of the boys ranch. Then the claims about Daniel and GoodK's stepfather ensured. And ensured and ensued and ensued yet further. Clarifications were attempted in good faith, all to no avail. I cannot, absolutely cannot believe it has continued on until this point. This entire pathetic drama, which DCP has ad infinitum
clarified, articulated, explained, and made crystal clear to all concerned,

This has nothing to do with Daniel C. Peterson, and everything to do with GoodK's own personal demons, demons apparently quite imposing. It has to do with hate, seething, irrational, unrelenting hate and hostility to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and anyone who's dares speak a word in its defense.

I don't know GoodK personally, but given some three years of his performance, demeanor, and attitudes as expressed here, in this forum, over the period of several years, it surprises me little that he ended up in what, for all intents and purposes, is a reform school.

Will said it all in a previous post regarding this psycho circus.

I experienced a similar thing with a relative of Tom Murphy on the old Mormon-L email list. It is a dark, roiling, embittered hate that drives this kind of behavior aginst members of the Church who have done nothing wrong, but who are...members of the Church.

Scratch is, in one person, the sum total of this entire syndrome. Paranoid, delusional, obsessed with the personal slander and destruction of targeted individuals, relentlessly conspiratorial in his thinking etc.

Doubt not that this is all of a piece, and all part of a long and well known and observed pattern in the Church among those who have left it, but cannot leave it alone or in peace.
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Droopy wrote:Scratch is, in one person, the sum total of this entire syndrome. Paranoid, delusional, obsessed with the personal slander and destruction of targeted individuals, relentlessly conspiratorial in his thinking etc.


Duck! Drippy is reaching for the thesaurus again. I can just feel it.
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karl61 wrote:I thought a long time ago that mister scratch was D. Michael Quinn because I saw that he was lecturing at USC after he left BYU. He never really got into history though because if he did maybe it would have outed him.


I was hoping for a while that Scratch would be the Emile Zola to Quinn's Alfred Dreyfus.
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Droopy wrote:
I don't know GoodK personally, but given some three years of his performance, demeanor, and attitudes as expressed here, in this forum, over the period of several years, it surprises me little that he ended up in what, for all intents and purposes, is a reform school.


Reform school. Wow. I haven't heard that term for a number of years, yet in this case, it appears to be entirely applicable. UBR isn't a boot camp; from the descriptions provided by GoodK, it fits much better into the reform school arena.

Boot camps, as explained in Crock's link, tend to be government run facilities for juveniles who have been convicted of a crime. Usually the crime would be fairly low key, not violent offenders. At the boot camp here, it's a privilege to be assigned to it, rather than the standard indoor juvenile facility with locks on every door. It's situated on the outskirts of a state prison, and is run quite similiarly, except for the mandatory classes and physical activity. Communty service is something they earn and is considered a privilege.

That doesn't sound anything like UBR. UBR sounds much more like the reform schools of the mid-50's, where the "bad kids" were sent by their parents for rebellious behavior. Not surprising it's in Utah. Sometimes I think many Utahns are caught in a time warp.

Thanks, Droop. You nailed that one.
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moksha wrote: I was hoping for a while that Scratch would be the Emile Zola to Quinn's Alfred Dreyfus.


Are you suggesting that Dr. Quinn's story would make an interesting independent motion picture? Perhaps you would also say that the director of the film Milk would have a quality picture in this story.

Too bad you won't be able to download it on the potentially defunct Pirate Bay. Now get back on topic.
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harmony wrote:
That doesn't sound anything like UBR. UBR sounds much more like the reform schools of the mid-50's, where the "bad kids" were sent by their parents for rebellious behavior. Not surprising it's in Utah. Sometimes I think many Utahns are caught in a time warp.


Do you have evidence that reform schools allowed parents to make the decision to send them. Also do you have evidence that reform schools were private businesses? If not, then reform schools would have been like state run boot camps and not like the place Eric described in which kids are abducted, brought there with no prior knowledge, with no professional assessment done to warrant the decision.

by the way, I've noticed you have evaded responding to the question I asked you on why you think UBR differs to the behavior modification programs of the article by Maia Szalavitz I cited for you. She discusses both state and private run ones.
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