
To Whom is God Talking?
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And then we'd have to establish the Prime Directive, which is non-interference with the life forms on a given planet, until such time as they develop warp capability. 

Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
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Me. Thus saith Kishkumen, amen.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
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Truth dancer, You paint a negative picture of inspiration. It demands shutting your mind off and just believeing a message. I realize there are people who ask others to do this. Perhaps this is just bad inspiriation. I think good inspiriation opens peoples eyes so they can think for themselves. I think good inspiration gives people courage to follow what they sense to most true in their inmost heart. I think good inspriation gives life to ones inmost heart.
It is the opposite of inspiration which produces messages that others must believe by limiting their thought, limiting their respect for others, and limiting respect for themselves.
I feel some temptation to call inspiration which does not qualify as truely life encouraging as demonic. In a sense I think that is true but it is melodramatic and covers up the other fact that bad inspiration is normally a result of people trying to manipulate other people or people trying to appear better than other people. Of course I believe those two things are the essence of the demonic even if it is a completely natural human phenomenom.
It is the opposite of inspiration which produces messages that others must believe by limiting their thought, limiting their respect for others, and limiting respect for themselves.
I feel some temptation to call inspiration which does not qualify as truely life encouraging as demonic. In a sense I think that is true but it is melodramatic and covers up the other fact that bad inspiration is normally a result of people trying to manipulate other people or people trying to appear better than other people. Of course I believe those two things are the essence of the demonic even if it is a completely natural human phenomenom.
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Well said Huck. Thanks for your thoughts...Roger
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Hi Roger. and thanks. But I must remind you that I am no prophet, have no authority mantle and do not do prophetic contests. That means you cannot assume what I have said is true. You will have to decide that yourself.
I mean suppose God wanted to be sure to select only a few people and decided the best way was to demand things that do not connect with what is true in our heart. God could just select somebody special to speak to and others could be judged by whether they follow. Or should we say, all the lesser lights must learn by doing what they are told.
Say Nightlion, if you are interested in renewing LDS revelation you really do not want to care what I think of your inspiration. I am not sympathetic to that project to start with. That could be a reason I cannot find anything in that list you made in this thread which I agree with enough to want to discuss.
I mean suppose God wanted to be sure to select only a few people and decided the best way was to demand things that do not connect with what is true in our heart. God could just select somebody special to speak to and others could be judged by whether they follow. Or should we say, all the lesser lights must learn by doing what they are told.
Say Nightlion, if you are interested in renewing LDS revelation you really do not want to care what I think of your inspiration. I am not sympathetic to that project to start with. That could be a reason I cannot find anything in that list you made in this thread which I agree with enough to want to discuss.
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Hi Huck. I think you have all the authority needed to be prophetable :-) As do we all. It's a right of birth to uncover truths to live by. Collectively such truths are tried, tested adapted, adopted or rejected.
Not everyone is a creative thinker. But we have sufficient to have advanced from the cave...
Further advancement will release us from the influence of the demonized you mentioned earlier--those with the audacity to pretend they speak for God...
Really, when someone/anyone states they speak for a non-existing entity, warning lights/bells/whistles must alarm all but the most gullible among us, of the delusional egomaniac in our midst...
This is not saying, "...no good came out of Nazareth..." Rather I suggest, as I think you did, one must be wise. For there are those who will exploit the honest and tender hearts seeking to be led...
As I see the dark-side of radical religionists in their disguises; enough already...
Roger
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Not everyone is a creative thinker. But we have sufficient to have advanced from the cave...
Further advancement will release us from the influence of the demonized you mentioned earlier--those with the audacity to pretend they speak for God...
Really, when someone/anyone states they speak for a non-existing entity, warning lights/bells/whistles must alarm all but the most gullible among us, of the delusional egomaniac in our midst...
This is not saying, "...no good came out of Nazareth..." Rather I suggest, as I think you did, one must be wise. For there are those who will exploit the honest and tender hearts seeking to be led...
As I see the dark-side of radical religionists in their disguises; enough already...
Roger
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Have you noticed what a beautiful day it is? Some can't...
"God": nick-name for the Universe...
"God": nick-name for the Universe...
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Sethbag wrote:I'm torn here, Danna, and I beg your forgiveness. On the one hand, I want to laugh and say your story is awesome, but on the other hand, it's your biological father, and his mind has been impaired for the last 23 years by an accident not of his own making. I'm very sorry for his mishap. If there is any silver lining in his story at all, it might be that at least he has added a lot of spice to life (though I'm sure, from the point of view of the judges and police and other recipients of his rambling screeds, of some spices a little goes a long way).
It does illustrate rather well a perfect example of "revelation", even direct communication with a deity, being a fabrication of a person's own mind.
I think Richard's revelations are as valid as anybody else's, and talking to him it is easy to visualize Old Testament prophets. In a different culture he could probably attract some disciples. It has been so long since the accident that we have all adjusted and have no problems seeing the funny side of life. As far as Richard is concerned, he is reasonably self aware and knows that his views are not normal, he has the same pythonesque sense of humor that he always had. But he is very happy with the situation - he has had a special experience and receives ongoing revelation and has a much better attitude to life than when he was an atheist socialist agitating against the US military machine. Now he has the advantage of KNOWING he has the truth.