The topic of Worth

[_The Nehor]

She must have had GA connections.

You really need to get over your class envy.

[_Inconceivable]

You still did not tell me how much you give to feed the poor.

1 TAKE heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

(New Testament | Matthew 6:1 - 4)

But then again, I have not announced to the world that I am a city set on a hill.

I am not the subject here, Jason.

Here's some more advice that any church ought to consider:

21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23 ¶ And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!

(New Testament | Mark 10:21 - 23)

[_Mercury]

She must have had GA connections.

You really need to get over your class envy.

You really need to get over your worship of wealthy individuals.

[_Jason Bourne]

Inc

When you make irrational criticisms against a Church that does give millions and yes with FO assistance, even hundreds of millions a year to feed the poor, I expect you to put your money where your mouth is. If you don't do something significant to feed to poor your criticism on this issue is even more hollow to me.

So, do you give to assist the poor?

[_Mercury]

Inc

When you make irrational criticisms against a Church that does give millions and yes with FO assistance, even hundreds of millions a year to feed the poor, I expect you to put your money where your mouth is. If you don't do something significant to feed to poor your criticism on this issue is even more hollow to me.

So, do you give to assist the poor?

Lets settle this right now Jason, as I am getting tired of your "crap or get off the pot" bull. By paying taxes Inc gives more to the poor than the LDS church does, as LDS Incorporated donates less than 1 percent of its intake to charitable efforts. See figures published by church units overseas for details.

Cut the crap Jason.

[_Inconceivable]

Inc
So, do you give to assist the poor?

yes, Jason. I do.

I have the wherewithall to throw one starfish back in at a time for now. I used to throw in gobs. Fast Offerings, particularly the Humanitarian Funds, were very sacred to me (so was paying a full tithe all of my life - I never cheated). That's just me, but who cares. Nobody here knows who I am anyway.

Now I am spending more efforts on saving for the day that I am unable to work. So I don't ever become a starfish. So I'll have a greater capacity to contribute (and not just with money).

Jason, the church doesn't need to save for the day it is unable to work. It has an eternal passive income. The Mormon church makes a mockery of those that have little, yet pay 10%.

inc.

[_Jason Bourne]

yes, Jason. I do.

Great. I am happy you do so.

I have the wherewithall to throw one starfish back in at a time for now. I used to throw in gobs. Fast Offerings, particularly the Humanitarian Funds, were very sacred to me (so was paying a full tithe all of my life - I never cheated). That's just me, but who cares. Nobody here knows who I am anyway.

I don't expect you can save the world. Do your little part. It all adds up.

Now I am spending more efforts on saving for the day that I am unable to work. So I don't ever become a starfish. So I'll have a greater capacity to contribute (and not just with money).

I am all for preparing to take care of ones self.

Jason, the church doesn't need to save for the day it is unable to work. It has an eternal passive income. The Mormon church makes a mockery of those that have little, yet pay 10%.

The Church is a large organization that has many missions and purposes to fulfill. Among them is to provide places of worship. It also believes that temple worship is important so of course it will spend resources on that. And it gives to the poor. Perhaps not enough to satisfy you or others. But it does give. I noted already that FO assistance has to be significant world wide. I read a time article yesterday that pu last year's humanitarian aid to disaster areas at $110,000,000. SO they do give. To argue they don't and that they are greedy it franly stupid. To rant like Merc does that there are few families that are enriching themselves smacks of paranoid conspiracy theories. When he has real evidence I will listen to him.

[_Jason Bourne]

Lets settle this right now Jason, as I am getting tired of your "s*** or get off the pot" bull.

Kiss off Merc. You are so full of crap on this one that your eyes are simply brown. You toss out cutsie remarks and vague innuendos yet you have no evidence of your paranoid claims.

By paying taxes Inc gives more to the poor than the LDS church does, as LDS Incorporated donates less than 1 percent of its intake to charitable efforts. See figures published by church units overseas for details.

The LDS Church gives hundreds of millions every year in Fast Offering assistance as well as other humanitarian aid.

Giving to the poor through taxes does not count as charitable as one is compelled to pay taxes.

Cut the crap Jason.

Practice what you preach dude.

[_Mercury]

To rant like Merc does that there are few families that are enriching themselves smacks of paranoid conspiracy theories. When he has real evidence I will listen to him.

Evidence has been given. Its not a conspiracy theory Jason, its just how it is. The numbers don't add up. When the church releases a full financial accounting by independent auditors this will be put to rest. Until then we can only draw conclusions from what the corporation spends their money on. Currently that seems to be poorly planned shopping malls.

As for the taxes issue, tithing is compulsory if you want to be able to stay in the good graces of the great Mormon space god. To the cult there is nothing more compulsory than tithing.

[_Jason Bourne]

Evidence has been given. Its not a conspiracy theory Jason, its just how it is. The numbers don't add up. When the church releases a full financial accounting by independent auditors this will be put to rest. Until then we can only draw conclusions from what the corporation spends their money on. Currently that seems to be poorly planned shopping malls.

I see little to no evidence from you. Who is getting rich off the mall? The contruction companies? Do the GAs own such companies or their families?

As for the taxes issue, tithing is compulsory if you want to be able to stay in the good graces of the great Mormon space god. To the cult there is nothing more compulsory than tithing.

I will concede that tithing has an element of compulsion given to be in good standing one must tithe.