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madeleine wrote:Jesus Christ was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, not with the seed of something or someone.

Though, traditional Christians give the title of the New Eve to Mary. But not for reasons that she was carrying the ovaries or eggs of Eve. (That is just really not rational, at all.)


Mary was impregnated by the power of the Holy Ghost, meaning that the power of the Holy Ghost placed the ONE cloned ovum from Eve that carried only the DNA of the Father into the virgin womb of Mary. What is not rational here. It is perfect and scientific biology.
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madeleine wrote:Jesus Christ was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, not with the seed of something or someone.

Though, traditional Christians give the title of the New Eve to Mary. But not for reasons that she was carrying the ovaries or eggs of Eve. (That is just really not rational, at all.)


So was Mary never pregnant? Is that what you are suggesting?
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Nightlion wrote:What is not rational here.


God is spirit.
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stemelbow wrote:So was Mary never pregnant? Is that what you are suggesting?


Surely, you are not that ignorant of orthodox Christian doctrine.
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stemelbow wrote:
madeleine wrote:Jesus Christ was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, not with the seed of something or someone.

Though, traditional Christians give the title of the New Eve to Mary. But not for reasons that she was carrying the ovaries or eggs of Eve. (That is just really not rational, at all.)


So was Mary never pregnant? Is that what you are suggesting?


What? Of course Mary was pregnant.
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madeleine wrote:
Nightlion wrote:What is not rational here.


God is spirit.


You mean that there IS no such thing as DNA with God and that he does not have a body to clone? That would be more of a belief than a rationale.
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madeleine wrote:
Nightlion wrote:What is not rational here.


God is spirit.


Nightlion wrote:You mean that there IS no such thing as DNA with God and that he does not have a body to clone?


Yes, that is exactly what I mean.

That would be more of a belief than a rationale.


No my friend, perfectly reasonable, rational and scriptural.

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madeleine wrote:
Nightlion wrote:
That would be more of a belief than a rationale.


No my friend, perfectly reasonable, rational and scriptural.

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As is my belief perfectly reasonable, rational and scriptural.
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Nightlion wrote:As is my belief perfectly reasonable, rational and scriptural.
Peace


I don't see anything scriptural about God implanting Eve's ovum into Mary. Sorry, it may be reasonable and rational to you, but it's not scriptural.
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Runtu wrote:
Nightlion wrote:As is my belief perfectly reasonable, rational and scriptural.
Peace


I don't see anything scriptural about God implanting Eve's ovum into Mary. Sorry, it may be reasonable and rational to you, but it's not scriptural.


13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; bit shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.


You do not see the connection between Eve's conception being multiplied and that seed being counted for Christ who would have power to bruise the serpent's head?

Joseph Smith said that there need be only one word of scripture about something to establish it for doctrine.

If you fail to see it and refuse to use you intelligence to put together all the facts concerning the virgin birth of Jesus Christ and the fact that he was in the express image of the Father and that the purpose for the ordinance of the sacrament is the reverent disposal of the body and blood of Christ prepared to take effect in the instant all things become new and Christ sits upon the very throne of power, which shall be removed from where it now abides, to be brought to this earth as recorded in the Book of Revelation, and fail to wonder how the three beings of the Godhead continue on a closed round from one generation of the heavens to another each in turn being the Christ, then you might want to school yourself in the art of problem solving.

D&C 88: 19
19 For after it hath filled the measure of its creation, it shall be crowned with glory, even with the presence of God the Father;


D&C 130
7 But they reside in the presence of God, on a globe like a sea of glass and fire, where all things for their glory are manifest, past, present, and future, and are continually before the Lord.
8 The place where God resides is a great Urim and Thummim.
9 This earth, in its sanctified and immortal state, will be made like unto crystal and will be a Urim and Thummim to the inhabitants who dwell thereon, whereby all things pertaining to an inferior kingdom, or all kingdoms of a lower order, will be manifest to those who dwell on it; and this earth will be Christ’s.


Christ will become God the Father.....as he spoke to the Jews which is where he was before..........meaning that he repeats as God the Father, as then it is rationally extrapolated so do they all three repeat each of the three acts of the Great God.

John 6: 62
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
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