Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Will Schryver wrote:I suppose the only explanation is that I have grown entirely comfortable with my hypocrisy.



I am thinking it more likely you are wholly oblivious to it.

But I would appreciate a response to my post above when you have the chance, Will.

I think there may be an opportunity for actual constructive dialogue here.

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Eric wrote:This has got to be one of the strangest exchanges I've had with you. I'm puzzled.


Yeah, I am in a mood. I should have just thought things through a little more before I posted that. My apologies.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Trevor wrote: My apologies.


See how easy it is, Will?

And Trevor used only two words.

Guess what comes next?

Eric forgives Trevor and the entire incident is put in the past and forgotten.

You can do this, too.

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Trevor wrote:
Eric wrote:This has got to be one of the strangest exchanges I've had with you. I'm puzzled.


Yeah, I am in a mood. I should have just thought things through a little more before I posted that. My apologies.


No need to apologize. Lord knows I have my moments too.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Eric wrote:No need to apologize. Lord knows I have my moments too.


See?
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Will-haters? Yes, that must be it.


Yes, it is, as your posting history here demonstrates. Nor is the hatred in any way limited to William.

I mean it couldn't possibly have anything to do with the plethora of evidence proving he is a despicable character who has unjustifiably denigrated women on this forum. I feel sorry for his wife and daughter, who have a father and husband who is notorious for such antics.


I have an apt comment regarding the above, but I'll keep it to myself.

The fact that he backs off the men like a frightened mouse (he has several of us on ignore),


Why shouldn't he ignore you? What have you ever brought to this, or any other message board, but empty, angry rhetoric, personal bile, and red faced mendacity disguised as intellectual critique?

And notice that no one you consider "reasonable" has concluded Will didn't use the C-Word. Rollo, for example, admits that he may very well have said it; he just didn't see it.


It wasn't seen. The original post was went unmentioned for a very long period of time before a firestorm erupted over it (the classic Anita Hill gambit that, in our second/third wave saturated popular intellectual environment, means that when a female goes after a male, the female has carte blanche credibility by default, and the male is given neither the slightest benefit of the doubt nor allowed even a remnant of human decency to remain as features of his personal character).

That Will has character defects, making him no different at all from the rest of us, no one is denying. The question is, will those defects of character attract constructive criticism from concerned friends, or attempts at public degradation and defamation by self interested hyenas doing what they do best: snapping, slavering, and drooling over what they perceive to be an inviting bloody carcass?

This is hardly evidence that Will's nonsensical version holds water.


It appears to. The documentary evidence for the claim apparently does not exist. A long span of time went by before it was made the subject of moral outrage, indicating the distinct possibility that the idea of using is as a point of criticism had to gestate for a while and be "worked up" before being made public.

As Will has pointed out, quite plausibly, had such a thing really been said, the feeding frenzy would have begun immediately, and not delayed and, apparently, forgotten by most.

Again, no one is addressing the illogical argument Schryver has put forth.


Its simply the fact that you don't really understand what logic is, or how it works, or why it's important, that forces you to describe as illogical inferentially plausible explanations.

Does it really make sense that calling harmony a "hypocrite" and an "embarrassment" would result in such a firestorm of protest? At the very least, we should be able to conclude that Will is lying about what he says he said. So it is hardly a stretch to see him lying about what he didn't say.


To conclude that, you would have to have some compelling, or at least plausible evidence. As you do not, your leap to your conclusion is nothing more than further evidence of your own personal bigotry and hatred of Will.

You'd make a great product liability lawyer Kevin.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Doctor Scratch wrote:You mean you don't know?

Don't know what?

Let me just point out (again) that you are putting forth a Herculean effort to avoid naming the "scholars" who are amused with your antics here on the board.

There are "scholars" who are amused with my antics on this message board?

Really?

Who?

As I've said, we already know that Midgley is one of them.

We do?

How do "we" know this?

But who else?

I can't imagine.

Gee?

Doubtful. He doesn't even laugh at ithyphallic Egyptian cartoons.

Skousen?

Royal Skousen? Not likely. Doesn't even have the internet at home.

But at least I could count on him to understand the otherwise under-appreciated literary nuances of the things I say.

The more you avoid the issue, the more it becomes clear that this is exactly what your "handlers" at the MI are afraid of.

My "handlers?"

LOL!

Oh, Scratch, you are a unique specimen ...
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Now, were harmony a typical example of what is good and honorable among women, things would be different. But she’s not. She’s a lying apostate shrew who takes every opportunity to denigrate Mormonism, its founder, and its adherents.



But she still manages to pull through her temple recommend interviews with flying colors, apparently answering "yes" for the vast majority, or all of the questions asked of her.

For some odd, vague reason, this has always bothered me...
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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If you don't wish to be branded as a misogynist, don't use misogynist language to attack women you perceive as your enemies. You can attack them without sexualizing them and then degrading them.

You're rather like someone who calls a black man the "n-word" then insists you're not racist - you just don't like that particular n***** (censoring is mine)



You really do, Buffalo, need to peer outside of your tightly wound, opaque, hermetically sealed little PC cocoon once in a while and take a deep breath.

There's a whole world out here beyond your CNN chat room cliches.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Droopy wrote:
Now, were harmony a typical example of what is good and honorable among women, things would be different. But she’s not. She’s a lying apostate shrew who takes every opportunity to denigrate Mormonism, its founder, and its adherents.



But she still manages to pull through her temple recommend interviews with flying colors, apparently answering "yes" for the vast majority, or all of the questions asked of her.

For some odd, vague reason, this has always bothered me...

That is because she has long since grown comfortable living a lie and being a hypocritical liar--which is exactly the thing I was reminding her of in my post she deleted. Then, over six months later, she decided to employ a little apostate revisionist history and claim that the deleted post in question consisted of me calling her ... well, we all now know what she claims I said to her.

I have noticed that both MrStakhanovite and Spurven Ten Sing--harmony's erstwhile suborned witnesses--have long since made themselves scarce from this discussion. Mmmmmmmmm ... I wonder why that is? LOL!
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