Baptism for the dead not necessary?

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Re: Baptism for the dead not necessary?

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And now, if it's all the same to you, I will continue to refer to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as The Church of Jesus Christ, in the hope that eventually even you might be able to figure out which church I'm talking about.
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The name you are using is the legal name of another church.

Also, the name used now by l-dsinc is not the name given by Jesus hisself in the doctrine and covenants. Why did they change the name?
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Bow your head and mutter, what in hell am I doing here?

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Re: Baptism for the dead not necessary?

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schreech wrote:
Pahoran wrote:Y'know schreech, the trouble with being a smart-aleck is that there's always the chance it may backfire on you. That's a risk you should watch out for, particularly since you're not too swift to start with.

Observe their beliefs page. Who translated that book, the name of which is highlighted in blue, indicating a link to another page?

And now, if it's all the same to you, I will continue to refer to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as The Church of Jesus Christ, in the hope that eventually even you might be able to figure out which church I'm talking about.

What exactly backfired? Are saying that the REAL Church of Jesus Christ practices baptisms for the dead or are you saying that they are the actual church that joe started when he translated the Book of Mormon....I think its hilarious that you are actually so insecure that you had to spend time reading their site in order to secure some small/non-"victory" - lol. Your poor ego just couldn't handle it I guess...

Neither. Pay attention, schreech.

I'm saying that the Church you linked to accepts the Book of Mormon as scripture, thus linking itself to Joseph Smith. You attack him, you attack the credibility of that church.

And just because your own ego is deflated, there's no need to schreeeeeech at me. You're the one who linked to that site, assuming in your ignorance that it would be a smart-aleck way to score a point. Don't get mad just because I clicked one more link than you wanted me to.

schreech wrote:You are the dimwit who can't even get the name of your own church correct.

No need to schreeeeeech at me. Here's another link you might like to click before projecting your own dimwittedness on anyone else: http://newsroom.LDS.org/style-guide

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"When a shortened reference is needed, the terms "the Church" or "the Church of Jesus Christ" are encouraged."
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Interesting these folks use the name of another church entirely. It is wrong no matter who does it.

As for their assertion that all the other offshoots and branches have no claim to the term Mormon, pure goose crap. They use the Book of Mormon, believe in joethecoxman and teach his 'gospel' and have as much right to the nickname as l-dsinc does.
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Joseph wrote:Sorry Doc, the topic I was reading prompted the question and I didn't even pay attention.

So what makes it a lower mythical kingdom topic anyhow?



Wait... you can read?
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Joseph wrote:"When a shortened reference is needed, the terms "the Church" or "the Church of Jesus Christ" are encouraged."
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Interesting these folks use the name of another church entirely. It is wrong no matter who does it.

And so, if "another church entirely" were to be set up using simply "The Church" as its name, would no other church ever again be allowed to call itself "The Church?"

By your standards, I guess they must not be.

You must really be desperate for something to criticise if this is the best you can come up with.

The full and true name of the Church is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." What are the first five words of that name, Joseph?

Is "Joseph" your true name, or did you steal it?

Incidentally, and just so you know: only ignorant, bigoted swine call the Saviour's Church "l-dsinc" or anything similar to that. Stop being an ignorant, bigoted swine, and we might actually start taking you seriously as an adult with an opinion.

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Pahoran wrote:You must really be desperate for something to criticise if this is the best you can come up with.

The full and true name of the Church is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." What are the first five words of that name, Joseph?

Is "Joseph" your true name, or did you steal it?

Incidentally, and just so you know: only ignorant, bigoted swine call the Saviour's Church "l-dsinc" or anything similar to that. Stop being an ignorant, bigoted swine, and we might actually start taking you seriously as an adult with an opinion.




Pahoran, how does your post help the Church? Do you think by belittling others, being bitter and angry that someone is going to be attracted to the Church? Seriously, you are doing harm to the Church, what it stands for and its mission. I really doubt you are a member. If I am wrong, you need some serious repenting and some serious introspection on the harm you are causing.
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Joseph wrote:"When a shortened reference is needed, the terms "the Church" or "the Church of Jesus Christ" are encouraged."
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Interesting these folks use the name of another church entirely. It is wrong no matter who does it.

As for their assertion that all the other offshoots and branches have no claim to the term Mormon, pure goose crap. They use the Book of Mormon, believe in joethecoxman and teach his 'gospel' and have as much right to the nickname as l-dsinc does.


It's particularly ironic that they encourage the use of another churches name in place of their own on a rather petulant page admonishing people about proper usage of their churches name.

As for the term Mormon, it seem The Church of Jesus Christ (established in 1862) does not want to be associated with "the Mormon" church at all.
The Church of Jesus Christ has no connection whatsoever with the Mormon church. Further, many of the beliefs for which the Mormons are criticized are strictly prohibited by The Book of Mormon
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Pahoran wrote:Neither. Pay attention, schreech.

I'm saying that the Church you linked to accepts the Book of Mormon as scripture, thus linking itself to Joseph Smith. You attack him, you attack the credibility of that church.

And just because your own ego is deflated, there's no need to schreeeeeech at me. You're the one who linked to that site, assuming in your ignorance that it would be a smart-aleck way to score a point. Don't get mad just because I clicked one more link than you wanted me to.


You poor, deluded, insecure man...So you meant to say that attacking joe is an attack on the credibility of the actual Chruch of Jesus Christ? Why would that be? Lol...your need to stroke your poor little ego is making you seem more dense by the post...Click all you want on the links posted at the REAL Chruch of Jesus Christ...I would love for you to continue showing that questioning joe's legitimacy as a prophet ruins their credibility as the "true" church he started....again, you are the dullard that can't even use the correct name of the church you belong to and work so hard to make look foolish....Good on you for accepting the legitimacy of another sect of Mormon believers....
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