Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

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just me wrote:Here is a Q&A from the site:

Q: Is exposure to the LDS church a problem?

A: From Dr. Jill Manning’s point of view, exposure to the LDS Church to any degree, even if it involves one exposure, can be problematic if it:
1. Violates trust within a relationship
2. Puts employment or school admission at risk
3. Fuels global demand for this material
4. Reinforces or introduces beliefs which promote misogynistic views and attitudes
5. Is incongruent with religious or personal values and/or commitments
6. Increases the risk that children in the home will be exposed
7. Decreases well-being


Kinda hilarious to see that misogynistic attitudes are considered a problem.


HEY! Look what happens when we change a little bit of the wording!!! It still applies!

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Personally, I've seen more relationships shattered by Mormonism than by pornography.
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Droopy wrote:
Another post like that and the cyber police will issue you a PUI.




I don't know. Given the subject matter of this thread and the positive feelings toward pornography expressed here, many of the exmos and secularist liberals here may soon find themselves issued an MUI.


Droopy, I am not an ex-Mormon or a secular liberal, but i do have an interest in psychology and I really get irritated when the term "addiction" is thrown around to label a moral issue with no regards for what addiction really is. You say you were once an alcoholic, right? Well, were you an alcoholic because you had a 1 beer once in a while? No. Is someone a porn addict if they view it once in a while? No.

I find porn especially repugnant today because many young people turn to the industry since there are no good jobs left in the USA -- those were gutted by Slick Willie, Bush the Lesser, and The Great Dope in regards to kissing up to corporate giants and making it easy to relocate companies to 3rd. World sweatshop heaven. Of course a young person could always join the military -- might have to if Mr. Peace Prize gets us into a war with China.

Can porn destroy a marriage? Sure it can in extreme circumstances. Can the fixation on porn destroying a marriage destroy a marriage? Absolutely, and I will bet it kills off thousands of Mormon marriages each year.
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Fiannan brought up a good question relating to how seeing porn somehow equates to addiction. This is worth discussing (by the way Fiannan, you still watch way too much American TV).

Also, Are Gynocologists (male or female) porn addicts and why? If not, what makes them different? A license or degree?

I perused the Mormon porn site and found it difficult that they have made no attempt at actually defining what constitutes pornography. Surely there are at very least varying degrees ranging from provocative attire to beastiality.

Would anyone like to take a crack at this?
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Droopy wrote:
Spurven Ten Sing wrote:Droopy,
have you ever even watched or viewed pornography?



I'll just say, at 52, and after working my way back from the hell of 28 years of alcohol addiction, I've "been around the block."

Hey Droopy, I feel that I have to express sincere admiration and congratulations on your recovery. Whatever else we may disagree on, I have to say that you have accomplished something quite spectacular. Well done!
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i've been to LDS addiction recovery meetings.

Mormons hide their porn addiction to save face.

people loose their temple recommends, are forbidden to take the sacrament, people get embarrassed publicly if they tell so they just don't.

their pornography movement will never be successful for that reason.
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Inconceivable wrote:Fiannan brought up a good question relating to how seeing porn somehow equates to addiction.


Addiction is a physical response, either to an ingested substance or to a neurological stimuli.

Physical response to the substance or stimuli depends on the individual.
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Porn can be very destructive not only emotionally and spiritually, but also physically as this video so clearly demonstrates:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otPL8KwKQmw
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Inconceivable wrote:Fiannan brought up a good question relating to how seeing porn somehow equates to addiction. This is worth discussing (by the way Fiannan, you still watch way too much American TV).

Also, Are Gynocologists (male or female) porn addicts and why? If not, what makes them different? A license or degree?

I perused the Mormon porn site and found it difficult that they have made no attempt at actually defining what constitutes pornography. Surely there are at very least varying degrees ranging from provocative attire to beastiality.

Would anyone like to take a crack at this?


American TV?

You bring up a good point -- what porn is being discussed at the site. Lumping all porn together would be like setting up a web site against violent movies and then lumping Tom and Jerry, John Wayne westerns, Tarantino movies, South Korean gore movies, Clockwork Orange, and Japanese terror movies together. Watch any of these they will affect you the same way since they are all equal, right?

Now I am quite sure there are some who would equate a Tom and Jerry episode with the Japanese/Russian production "Philosophy of a Knife, but most people realize that while they both contain elements of violence there is a bit more in the latter.

Now since most young Mormons have looked at porn (yes, even young women although the web site in the OP only mentions women as victims, ironically presenting porn in a context that a 1970s feminist would be proud of) to say it all is the same will cause many people to merely say, "No it is not!" This hurts the credibility of the Church, even though their intentions are good.
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harmony wrote:
Inconceivable wrote:Fiannan brought up a good question relating to how seeing porn somehow equates to addiction.


Addiction is a physical response, either to an ingested substance or to a neurological stimuli.

Physical response to the substance or stimuli depends on the individual.

That's a good start. But Harmony, do you honestly think porn = addiction? That's why I mentioned the gynocologist. They don't fit the paradigm at all, do they?

Another peculiar (and albeit rediculous) recommendation the psychologists on the site give is to seek out clergy for assistance in overcoming the "problem". Mormon clergy are perhaps the least qualified of all denominations to deal with any issue - they have no knowledge or experience. I mean these guys are plumbers, MLM's, real estate agents, podiatrists.. what the hell?

I think these Mormon psychologists primarilly recommend clergy over someone with a degree in mental health because the rest of the world views this subject from an entirely different perspective.
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