Do more men see the fraud because of the priesthood?

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Buffalo wrote:It's all in your head.

Sorry to trouble you, Buffalo. But it wasn't just in my head.

I would best describe it as energy flowing from above the crown of my head that would fill my upper chest and convey down to my hands into the crown of the person receiving. Although I had received this previously from others, to be the conveyor for the first time was quite jaw dropping. It surprised, weakened and humbled me all at the same time. It wasn't my energy I felt. It was like how you feel if you have ever been holding on to someone else when you touch a live wire. You feel the energy and know it's passing through but it doesn't harm you.

It's best that people who leave never experience this because it (pardon the french) "F"s with your soul. It really lets you know how alone you really are in trusting any feeling that comes from outside of yourself. I still occasionally feel a seperation anxiety. For me, it has been the ultimate act of betrayal.
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Inconceivable wrote:
Buffalo wrote:It's all in your head.

Sorry to trouble you, Buffalo. But it wasn't just in my head.

I would best describe it as energy flowing from above the crown of my head that would fill my upper chest and convey down to my hands into the crown of the person receiving. Although I had received this previously from others, to be the conveyor for the first time was quite jaw dropping. It surprised, weakened and humbled me all at the same time. It wasn't my energy I felt. It was like how you feel if you have ever been holding on to someone else when you touch a live wire. You feel the energy and know it's passing through but it doesn't harm you.

It's best that people who leave never experience this because it (pardon the french) f***s with your soul. It really lets you know how alone you really are in trusting any feeling that comes from outside of yourself. I still occasionally feel a seperation anxiety. For me, it has been the ultimate act of betrayal.


Sounds like an issue for a neurologist to explore. I'm sorry if that sounds dismissive, but that's my honest opinion.
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Aristotle Smith wrote:Since women are allowed no participation in administering ordinances (except for the LDS temple work, which is really easy to avoid) and little in the way of direct leadership, it's much easier to go along with the church and not feel like a hypocrite.

A good number of temple-recommend-holding LDS women couldn't administer those ordinances if they wanted to because the CHI restricts women from serving as temple workers if they have children under the age of 18 living at home.
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Buffalo wrote:Sounds like an issue for a neurologist to explore. I'm sorry if that sounds dismissive, but that's my honest opinion.

No, but perhaps counseling. From who, I don't know. My soul is pretty broken.

Like I said, Buffalo. You are fortunate to have never experienced any of this so you can schuck it off. This was the most devastating aspect of my epiphany.

I honestly wish I were you.
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Inconceivable wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Sounds like an issue for a neurologist to explore. I'm sorry if that sounds dismissive, but that's my honest opinion.

No, but perhaps counseling. From who, I don't know. My soul is pretty broken.

Like I said, Buffalo. You are fortunate to have never experienced any of this so you can schuck it off. This was the most devastating aspect of my epiphany.

I honestly wish I were you.


By what means can you conclude that the source of your experience was external instead of internal?
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Inconceivable wrote:
Buffalo wrote:It's all in your head.

Sorry to trouble you, Buffalo. But it wasn't just in my head.

I would best describe it as energy flowing from above the crown of my head that would fill my upper chest and convey down to my hands into the crown of the person receiving. Although I had received this previously from others, to be the conveyor for the first time was quite jaw dropping. It surprised, weakened and humbled me all at the same time. It wasn't my energy I felt. It was like how you feel if you have ever been holding on to someone else when you touch a live wire. You feel the energy and know it's passing through but it doesn't harm you.

It's best that people who leave never experience this because it (pardon the french) f***s with your soul. It really lets you know how alone you really are in trusting any feeling that comes from outside of yourself. I still occasionally feel a seperation anxiety. For me, it has been the ultimate act of betrayal.


For what it's worth, this same experience is available through various types of meditation. It is replica-able psycho-physiological phenomenon that while often linked to God, need not be associated with religion (or for that matter, any deity).
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Morley wrote:For what it's worth, this same experience is available through various types of meditation. It is replica-able psycho-physiological phenomenon that while often linked to God, need not be associated with religion (or for that matter, any deity).

I absolutely understand the nature of what you are saying, Morley. Whatever/whoever it was, I've described it as best I can.
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Inconceivable wrote:I absolutely understand the nature of what you are saying, Morley. Whatever/whoever it was, I've described it as best I can.


For me, finding that the experience wasn't unique to the Mormonism shook my world. Eventually, I'd say, it shook my world very much for the better. A hundred things drove me from the Church. Finding this out was one of them.
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Morley wrote:
Inconceivable wrote:I absolutely understand the nature of what you are saying, Morley. Whatever/whoever it was, I've described it as best I can.


For me, finding that the experience wasn't unique to the Mormonism shook my world. Eventually, I'd say, it shook my world very much for the better. A hundred things drove me from the Church. Finding this out was one of them.

It never bothered me that this energy transcended religeons/cultures. I was always at peace with that. What devastated me was that it deceived me into thinking that all cultures/religeons would eventually merge into what I belonged to and practiced.
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