Casey Anthony Trial--it's ON

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Re: Casey Anthony Trial--it's ON

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I simply cannot resist making a serious prediction here about what might have led to the abrupt recess on Saturday. Really, I couldn't live with myself if I didn't at least take a good swing at it.

Unless what took place becomes evident on Monday, the public may never know what took place because the transcripts were sealed.

So...let me take a couple or three swings. Based on the fact that Casey herself needed to be present in chambers not once, but twice, and whatever it was brought her to tears.

Top Three Predictions (in no particular order)

1. She wants Baez off the Defense team.
2. Cheney Mason decided to bail.
3. She wants to make a plea deal.

This is all I can think of unless, someone came forward and confessed to something major.

Like that's gonna happen!

:-)

Or what about this?

She wanted Baez off the Defense team, Cheney Mason decided to bail, Geraldo Rivera stepped in as Lead Defense Attorney and encouraged her to take a plea deal.

Yeah, that's it!

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Re: Casey Anthony Trial--it's ON

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Cyber sleuth back on duty and reporting in!

I was wrong on all predictions! You see, this trial and the people involved are fully unpredictable. Just believe it!

This is what happened. Apparently a conversation took place between Defense Attorney's and Casey Anthony that led them to call for professional evaluations in order to determine whether or not Casey Anthony was competent to participate in the proceedings against her.

Just reviewing the wftv.com bloggers tells me how vulnerable these folks are to the sensational. 72,000 bloggers this morning and those who could get a word in edgewise were ALL saying that she's going for an insanity plea.

Nope.

Competency eval's have not a darn thing to do with insanity pleas. It simply means that an effort be made to determine if the defendant is able to participate in the proceedings, understand the proceedings and able to competently communicate with her attorney's as an active participant in her own defense.

She was deemed competent by three psychologists.

Enough said.
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Jersey Girl:

Okay so I noticed you've been talking to yourself on this thread and I hate to interrupt your conversation..... but.... and to make matters worse, I have not actually taken the time to read the posts (except for the last two), sorry... but since you are our resident Casey Anthony expert, I have a question, if it please the court....

I have not been following this thing too closely but.... I was thinking the other day, doesn't everything make sense if Lee is the father? Wouldn't that explain the dramatic tears between both of them when he was testifying, etc. etc? And she would at times feel like a happy mom but at others maybe resent the little girl? And if he forced her, she might think she deserves to be a party mom? Is that a possibility?

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Hello Roger,

Yes, I've been here for quite some time essentially talking to myself and happily so. :-)

You ask,

I have not been following this thing too closely but.... I was thinking the other day, doesn't everything make sense if Lee is the father? Wouldn't that explain the dramatic tears between both of them when he was testifying, etc. etc? And she would at times feel like a happy mom but at others maybe resent the little girl? And if he forced her, she might think she deserves to be a party mom? Is that a possibility?


The court would be happy to indulge your speculation if not for the fact that both Lee and George Anthony underwent DNA examination years ago and both were found "innocent" (if you will) of paternity.

You amateur!
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You amateur!


Dang! And I thought I had just solved the whole thing. Should I stand in the corner?
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Back on the horse here...first, if anyone happens to be checking in on this thread and has a vision of me glued to the television all during this trial, I want to explain how I'm following this trial.

The trial coverage I follow is on wftv.com. On the website you can choose to view the live trial coverage or view the video's of the trial posted in approx. 12 installments each day.

Typically, I look at the website in the morning to see what's going on, who is testifying and that sort of thing. I do this by opening the page with the live blog. I scan through the bloggers comments to pick up on what's taken place and at the same time, I may watch a few minutes of the live stream of the trial which is on the same screen.

Later in the day, usually in the evening, I watch the video installments. I prefer the video to live coverage because quite frankly, I've got things to do during the day and when I watch the video installments, I can flip through the side bars (of which there are many and often lasting 30 minutes or more each!) and get to the actual testimony.

When I'm working at home (organizing/cleaning, etc) I might take a little laptop (notebook) around with me and watch the videos while I'm working. Kind of a nice diversion from the hum-drum before me!

So, no. I am not glued to the television all day long! I can see in the comments of the bloggers (sometime totally upwards of 70+K bloggers at a time!) that folks all over the world are following the trial live and some getting up at 3 a.m. to do it, depending on their time zone.

I'm not that dedicated!

So, that's how I'm doing it.

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Okay, now on with it...

The Defense expects to be finished with their case by tomorrow. Following that are rebuttals and perhaps by Sunday, the jury will finally be sent out for deliberation.

Today's testimony was gut wrenching. You'd have to be a statue not to have been moved by George Anthony's expression of deep grief and sorrow. You could see him throughout his testimony, trying to keep his emotions under control until he just couldn't do it any longer.

He broke down, sobbing and crying, and it was simply heart breaking. Anyone with any capacity for empathy would have cried with him just as I did. Even the jury members were reported to have been crying during his testimony.

Which brings me to his daughter, Casey Anthony who apparently listened to her father brought to his emotional knees by the loss of her daughter, and expressed no emotion to that whatsoever. She sat there totally stone faced and appeared removed from her father's grief. I say, "apparently" because I got that information from scanning the blog for today. In other words, it was hearsay. :-)

My God, who can do that? Apparently Casey Anthony can.

I'll need to skip over a few testimonies and just give some impressions now, for the sake of time.

Meter Reader, Roy Kronk, who discovered the remains:

He came off as a concerned citizen, good Samaritin, who had nothing to hide regarding the discovery of the remains. He's a little smart assed, but I didn't hear or see anything in his testimony that would lead me to believe that he discovered the remains and moved them around until his actual discovery on Dec 11, 2008. Yes, he made repeated calls to the police beginning in August that police dropped the ball on. But no, I don't think he did anything untoward with regards to the remains of Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony

This man has been to hell and back again several times over. His grief was real, his denials of wrong doing were real and authentic. One piece of information was brought forward that I've never heard before and I thought I'd heard it all.

At one point, when Casey was under house arrest at the Anthony home, he purchased a gun which he intended to use to threaten Casey's boyfriends and friends in order to get information from them about what happened to Caylee. Yes, he was going to point a gun on them and try to force them to tell whatever they might have been hiding about the circumstances of Caylee's disappearance and death.

This totally thwarts the Defense assertion that George Anthony always knew what happened to Caylee and helped to cover up her death by disposing of the body.

I don't believe for a single second that George was present when Caylee died or that he helped to cover up her death by disposing of her body in the trunk, the woods or anywhere else.

Whatever the Defense may have intended to convince anyone of, totally backfired in my view. In the past two days, Baez came off as a complete and utter sleaze in the way in which he questioned George Anthony regarding his relationship with River Crews, George's suicide attempt and various other things not worth mentioning here.

There were other testimonies by Detective Yuri Melich, Roy Kronk's son (who obviously hates his father's guts) and an expert on grief.

Let me add one thing about the grief expert. I have always thought when watching the jailhouse tapes of Casey and her visiting family, that Casey was traumatized. Her affect was simply weird. It was if she were on speed or something. I'll leave it at that.

It is highly likely that Casey Anthony will take the stand in her own defense tomorrow. If that happens, watch for the television/Internet reports to go wild!

I'll try to post tomorrow and especially if Casey Anthony does testify. If she testifies, she is going to have to be impeccable in every way possible because her Defense Team has NOT proven its defense theory by anyone's measure.

That is to say, there is little doubt in my mind (today and barring an impeccable and utterly convincing testimony by Casey Anthony herself) that she will be convicted of most every count she is charged with with the exception of Murder 1.

Otherwise, the Defense Team has failed miserably in this case.
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Didn't the defense ask a question that allowed George to state "I thought she was innocent" or something like that? The past tense of this phrase would weigh heavily in the minds of jury and I would think the defense should have asked for it to be removed from the court record.

Again, I am not sure exactly what was said, just hearsay I guess.
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Wisdom Seeker wrote:Didn't the defense ask a question that allowed George to state "I thought she was innocent" or something like that? The past tense of this phrase would weigh heavily in the minds of jury and I would think the defense should have asked for it to be removed from the court record.

Again, I am not sure exactly what was said, just hearsay I guess.


Hello WS,

What I recall is a statement where George said "I didn't want to think that my daughter was capable of hurting her child"--but I'm not going to claim that's a direct quote. I'd have to sift through yesterday's testimony and he was on the stand for quite some time, so that'll have to do.

There really is no way to detect truth in the testimonies. There are multiple instances where the Anthony family or other witnesses contradict each other or appear to contradict themselves.

Example: Cindy denied sharing a psychic tip with Dominic Casey (PI) to search in the woods. Lee claims that she did give Dominic Casey the tip to search in the woods and expressed his disagreement with her doing so, saying he couldn't believe she was searching for a "dead Caylee".

Who is telling the truth?

Example: George Anthony denies having had an affair with River Crews a.k.a. Krystal Holloway. Today, Krystal Holloway claims she did have an affair ("sleeping with him") with George Anthony.

Who is telling the truth?

Example: Cindy Anthony claims to have done the computer searches on the family computer for chloroform, inhalation, various chemicals and claims to have seen a pop up for a video about a "Neck Breaking" skateboard accident, even though her employment records indicate she was working that day. When challenged with that, she stated that she was a salaried employee who filled out the time sheet with 8 hours per day no matter if she were at work or not. She stated that she didn't have Internet access at work (just an organization intranet) so she would have had to be home to do the searches. She also said she thought that, that information (time sheets) was already discarded by now.

The State has listed 2 employees (one an IT person I think) from her workplace to use in the rebuttal. It was also brought out by a legal analyst that according to HIPPA laws, staff records would be kept for 7 years.

So, there is some reason to believe that Cindy lied under oath, but we'll have to wait for the prosecution's rebuttal to see how and if they challenge her statements.

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A brief update...

There are more than 100,000 bloggers on the wftv.com live blog today! I assume that this is due to the fact that the Defense is about to rest it's case. During the morning, Krystal Holloway was questioned regarding her relationship with George Anthony and her claim that he told her "It was an accident that snowballed out of control". George Anthony has denied this claim.

An odd thing happened that may or may not mean anything. After a sidebar, with Defense Attorney Jose Baez, the Judge called lunch recess early, giving the jury and attorney's a 2 hour lunch which is unusual. There is speculation (blogs, analysts) that Casey Anthony is going to exercise her right to take the stand in her own defense so this is giving her attorney's either time to try to talk her out of it or prepare her, OR that when the Defense returns after lunch it will rest it's case and this timing will give the Prosecution all afternoon to begin presenting it's rebuttal.

All sidebars are not transmitted, thus the speculation.

Legal Analysts are divided on whether or not Casey needs to take the stand or if she should take the stand. Some say that she needs to take the stand because the Defense has not proven it's defense theory and only Casey herself can provide the information needed to conclude the defense case. Most agree that if she does so, the Defense is taking a huge risk in allowing her to be subjected to cross examination by the Prosecution. This, however, is her legal right and no one can prevent her from exercising it.
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