stemelbow wrote:Nice try, themis. My "seriously" was to digress and suggest I was playing around, joking in my previous sentence. As I said, I didn't really think Beastie was calling me a liar. I didn't forget. I was going with what I was thinking.
Sometimes its good to get a little petty, i guess, to make sure you are being clear. I hope no one takes it all the wrong way.
Humor can be hard to get through on paper, but it can also be an axcuse after that I was only kidding. I think beastie is right that you like to play victim a little around here, and then do your little attack like being petty. I just wish you would just discuss things without all the drama. I do think you are one of the better ones here though.
Themis wrote:Humor can be hard to get through on paper, but it can also be an axcuse after that I was only kidding. I think beastie is right that you like to play victim a little around here, and then do your little attack like being petty. I just wish you would just discuss things without all the drama. I do think you are one of the better ones here though.
What can I say, themis? I disagree with you, particularly the part about me being one of the better ones, but also the other stuff. Can we agree to disagree?
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
I believe by this time the moderators of the MDD Board have forwarded to the Strengthening Church Members Committee the names of all LDS that post on this board.
Hence, I would have to put Harmony, Jason, David B, Blixa and Liz at the top of the Church enemies list.
I might even be there myself . . .
In a delightful twist of fate, Stemelbow may be on it, as well.
The clue was the fact that the MDD Board called the information they were collecting on members of this board a "clipping service."
A "clipping service" makes no sense in light of message boards, but it happens to be the exact same phrase used by the LDS Church to describe the activities of the SCMC.
Coincidence?
I think not.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
consiglieri wrote:I believe by this time the moderators of the MDD Board have forwarded to the Strengthening Church Members Committee the names of all LDS that post on this board.
Hence, I would have to put Harmony, Jason, David B, Blixa and Liz at the top of the Church enemies list.
I might even be there myself . . .
In a delightful twist of fate, Stemelbow may be on it, as well.
The clue was the fact that the MDD Board called the information they were collecting on members of this board a "clipping service."
A "clipping service" makes no sense in light of message boards, but it happens to be the exact same phrase used by the LDS Church to describe the activities of the SCMC.
Coincidence?
I think not.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
It's also ironic that in all likelihood, many in the leadership of the Church, after reading the MAD posts by the moderators and many of the members there, would be seriously concerned at both the content and the tone.
Come to think of it, I should probably start a clipping service for MAD. Good idea! I'm going to start my Juliann/Nemesis folder today. The Church is going to be shocked at much of their online behavior.
"I'm on paid sabbatical from BYU in exchange for my promise to use this time to finish two books."
MsJack wrote:I'm sticking to living subjects, and only those who are either no longer members of the church or no longer identify as Mormon. Never-Mormons are also fair game. Current members who embarrass the church with their behavior are not included.
I don't claim this is a list sitting on anyone's desk in Salt Lake City. This is simply my idea of who the "top enemies" of the church are, meaning that these people have caused significant problems for the church in one way or another.
This list holds to no particular order.
1. Sandra Tanner - Love her or hate her, she has definitely managed to make trouble for the church
2. Ed Decker - The Godmakers. One way or another, it left its mark.
3. Helen Radkey - How many times has this woman embarrassed the church or gotten it into trouble with Jewish groups over problematic baptisms for the dead?
4. & 5. Trey Parker & Matt Stone - I can't imagine the church is pleased with their portrayal of Mormonism on either South Park or The Book of Mormon Musical.
6. Warren Jeffs - Jeffs hasn't focused much attention on the Salt Lake-based church per se, but his FLDS polygamous activities have brought a ton of negative attention to the Mormon tradition at large and perpetuated the "Mormon = polygamist" connection that the church would so much like to shed.
7. Dustin Lance Black - He brings attention to the church's activism against gays with his "gay ex-Mormon" backstory, and he also popularized the aforementioned polygamy connection with his work on Big Love.
8. Brent Metcalfe - What a "butthead."
9. D. Michael Quinn - Critics seem to love his histories. There's probably a reason for that.
10. Mark Hofmann - Do I even need to explain it?
I like this list, but I'd swap Trey Parker & Matt Stone with George D. Smith (founder of Signature Books) and Dan Vogel. The Signature Books approach to discussing the church, with its cool headed intellectualism has to be a bigger threat than a pop-cultural representation that was never meant to be taken seriously.
Stephen E. Robinson said it best in his FARMS review:
Korihor's back, and this time he's got a printing press.
...Give me a Walter Martin anytime, a good stout wolf with his own fur on, instead of those more timid or sly parading around in their ridiculous fleeces with their teeth and tails hanging out. Give me "Ex-Mormons for Jesus" or the Moody Bible Tract Society, who are at least honest about their anti-Mormon agenda, instead of Signature Books camouflaged as a "Latter-day Saint" press. I prefer my anti-Mormons straight up.
It’s relatively easy to agree that only Homo sapiens can speak about things that don’t really exist, and believe six impossible things before breakfast. You could never convince a monkey to give you a banana by promising him limitless bananas after death in monkey heaven.
stemelbow wrote:What can I say, themis? I disagree with you, particularly the part about me being one of the better ones, but also the other stuff. Can we agree to disagree?
Sure we can agree to disagree. Those who play the victim seldon think they are. :)
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:Come to think of it, I should probably start a clipping service for MAD. Good idea! I'm going to start my Juliann/Nemesis folder today. The Church is going to be shocked at much of their online behavior.
Well, as we all know, the angels are busily engaged in their own clipping service, and no good deed will go unnoticed up there.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist