Happy Pioneer Day, everyone!
I went to church in my pioneer skirt today hoping to get my pioneer on but sadly there was nary a mention of it or pioneers all day. :( So sad.
Anyway, I got an ancestor who was in the Brigham Young Company and all that jazz. So, YAY!
Happy Pioneer Day
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Happy Pioneer Day
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
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~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
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Bleah. Not my pioneers.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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I had some Nauvoo ancestors who crossed the plains, but apparently they kept going to the California gold fields and forgot all about being Mormons. Yay!
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Lucretia MacEvil wrote:I had some Nauvoo ancestors who crossed the plains, but apparently they kept going to the California gold fields and forgot all about being Mormons. Yay!
Smart!
My husband has some immigrants from Denmark who became very unhappy after coming to Utah. The dad hated Brigham and did not want his young daughters to become polygamous brides. So, they left in the cover of darkness...so the story goes.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
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just me wrote:So, they left in the cover of darkness...so the story goes.
Why would they have to sneak out? Surely no one would stop them from leaving openly...
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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What is that?
Oh, yeah. 99.999% of the world doesn't give a crap.
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Oh, yeah. 99.999% of the world doesn't give a crap.
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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harmony wrote:just me wrote:So, they left in the cover of darkness...so the story goes.
Why would they have to sneak out? Surely no one would stop them from leaving openly...
It was the 1860s. Peeps were scared of retribution against covenant breakers, apostates, whathaveyou. Dark times.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
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just me wrote:It was the 1860s. Peeps were scared of retribution against covenant breakers, apostates, whathaveyou. Dark times.
Doesn't sound much like the God of love, does it?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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harmony wrote:just me wrote:It was the 1860s. Peeps were scared of retribution against covenant breakers, apostates, whathaveyou. Dark times.
Doesn't sound much like the God of love, does it?
No. But it does resemble the Mormon God. ;)
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
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~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
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harmony wrote:Doesn't sound much like the God of love, does it?
That's right. Accept the claim at face value as the complete and exhaustive truth. After all, it's negative toward the Church.
harmony wrote:Bleah. Not my pioneers.
Here's my Deseret News "Pioneer Day" column from Thursday:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7001 ... ntity.html
Overwhelmingly, in my now fairly considerable experience, believing Latter-day Saints around the world regard the 1846-1869 Utah pioneers as at least among "their pioneers" whether or not those pioneers are biological ancestors. I'm perplexed by those very few who don't -- though I'm not at all surprised that unbelieving or nominal members of the Church feel no connection to earlier Saints.
Queue Joey: I have no life, I'm not a Captain of Industry like he is, I've never held a real job, I'm an insignificant loser, "only in Provo, baby," etc., etc.