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Hmmm. I'm pretty sure that the development of language shows that many have absolutely nothing to do with eachother and then many are related to eachother.
God could have made it that way on pupose to confuse modern scientists, but why?

For example, when Spaniards arrived in North America there were over 900 distinct languages spoken by the natives of this land. Some of them had absolutely nothing in common with others. This has led to the theory that there were several crossings from Asia. They date these crossings beyond 6000 years ago.

Hm. Okay. That's not my understanding, but i could be wrong. Let's see if we can find outl.
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If we apply this method of classification to languages elsewhere in the world, we can, in similar fashion, distinguish about twelve other large and ancient families comparable to Eurasiatic.

Even among these dozen families, there are certain distinctive roots indicating that all twelve of these families have evolved from a single earlier language.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/exploring/ ... icle4.html

This is just a snippet, but you get the point. I'll read some more and see if this actually DOES support my contention.
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Hoops wrote: Why are believers limited to using only one arena of truths to explain other truths? Believers begin with an acceptance of the supernatural (that is just a small step from repentance, by the way), so we can rightfully include those explanations for other things.


Who is limiting your use of one set of truths to explain another set of truths?

Love and compassion cannot explain the truth of a worldwide flood. I am sure that I totally don't understand what you are saying and I am sorry about that. It sounds like you are saying that since the Bible is true and therefore supernatural power is true that it can explain that the worldwide flood is true. And the only evidence for a worldwide flood is in the Bible to begin with. That makes it a circular argument, I think. It is not an explanation.

But, yeah, if you believe God can supernaturally make anything and everything be however he wants it to be then there really is very little value in trying to make anything match scientific evidence because clearly god can make anything look how it looks for whatever reason he might have. /run-on sentence
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Hoops wrote:If we apply this method of classification to languages elsewhere in the world, we can, in similar fashion, distinguish about twelve other large and ancient families comparable to Eurasiatic.

Even among these dozen families, there are certain distinctive roots indicating that all twelve of these families have evolved from a single earlier language.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/exploring/ ... icle4.html

This is just a snippet, but you get the point. I'll read some more and see if this actually DOES support my contention.


Interesting! I would be interested to know the timeframe they are looking at. Pretty cool.

From the article:

If the preceding scenario is correct — and it must be admitted that most historical linguists are today quite skeptical — then all modern languages have evolved from a single earlier language. But where was this language spoken? And when? On these questions the linguistic evidence is mute.
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hmm.. ya, it's called apologetics.. kinda a big thing in christianity.
Yeah, I've heard about that. That's mostly for those Northern liberals, though. The Bible says what it says and that's it.


huh? This must be what they guy was talking about Mormons being ignorant of christianity. I'm guessing your Mormon.
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For anyone who thinks Genesis 11 (Tower of Babel) should be taken as a literal ontological description of the development of language, you have a real problem. The preceding chapter, Genesis 10, already talks about a huge profusion of languages and cultures.
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Rambo wrote:This thread is for the christain out there. Seriously does everything rely on the Bible? Even when the Bible does not make sense at all? How does one get to this sort of thinking?


I don't think the Bible was ever meant to be a science book. So I don't think it can contradict something it wasn't meant to explain. It is though a historical book.. and historicity should be looked into deeply.
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Aristotle Smith wrote:For anyone who thinks Genesis 11 (Tower of Babel) should be taken as a literal ontological description of the development of language, you have a real problem. The preceding chapter, Genesis 10, already talks about a huge profusion of languages and cultures.


this is where the Mormons understanding of christianity comes from, because, well meaning christians are teaching this all ova'd place.
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huh? This must be what they guy was talking about Mormons being ignorant of christianity. I'm guessing your Mormon.

Ha! I've been tagged with the anti, hate-filled, bigoted, Christian label.
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Aristotle Smith wrote:For anyone who thinks Genesis 11 (Tower of Babel) should be taken as a literal ontological description of the development of language, you have a real problem. The preceding chapter, Genesis 10, already talks about a huge profusion of languages and cultures.

I'mnot sure what you're disputing here.
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