If Adam and Eve are not real and if no literal fall

[_Jersey Girl]

Hoops

I believe if one is to take The Bible seriously, then literalism is the only choice that does it justice

Is the Revelation literal?

[_Jersey Girl]

More for Hoops...a variation on a theme...

Is the Revelation literal?
Are the Psalms literal?
Are the Proverbs literal?
Are the Songs of Solomon literal?

[_MrStakhanovite]

Every conservative Christian I know always takes Song of Songs as some elaborate metaphor for Solomon's love for God, and not the Persian pillow book it actually is.

To Jersey Girl:

Turn away your eyes from me, for they overwhelm me— Your hair is like a flock of goats leaping down the slopes of Gilead. (6:5 ESV)

[_Hoops]

A Biblical literalist is not required to take the text in its entirety as literal. One is required to begin there. Obviously, because of what else The Bible tells us, Jesus is not recommending that one "pluck out his eye."

[_Hoops]

Every conservative Christian I know always takes Song of Songs as some elaborate metaphor for Solomon's love for God, and not the Persian pillow book it actually is.

To Jersey Girl:

Turn away your eyes from me, for they overwhelm me— Your hair is like a flock of goats leaping down the slopes of Gilead. (6:5 ESV)

Demonstrably false. You know me, and I take that text for what it is. A wonderful love affair.

[_Jersey Girl]

Every conservative Christian I know always takes Song of Songs as some elaborate metaphor for Solomon's love for God, and not the Persian pillow book it actually is.

To Jersey Girl:

Turn away your eyes from me, for they overwhelm me— Your hair is like a flock of goats leaping down the slopes of Gilead. (6:5 ESV)

I quite frankly, don't know how it ever made it into the canon. Pretty steamy stuff going on there that given Solomon's rep with the ladies, leads me to the conclusion that it has nothing to do with the church.

I can't recall a single Sunday School lesson on Songs. Can't imagine why.

;-)

[_Jersey Girl]

A Biblical literalist is not required to take the text in its entirety as literal. One is required to begin there. Obviously, because of what else The Bible tells us, Jesus is not recommending that one "pluck out his eye."

So what am I left to take away from this? Biblical literalists are not literally literalists?

:-)

[_Hoops]

A Biblical literalist is not required to take the text in its entirety as literal. One is required to begin there. Obviously, because of what else The Bible tells us, Jesus is not recommending that one "pluck out his eye."

So what am I left to take away from this? Biblical literalists are not literally literalists?

:-)

No. You are left with Biblical literalists are literalists when the text warrants it.

[_Hoops]

I quite frankly, don't know how it ever made it into the canon.

It does make one wonder how this occurred. If one we're simply going to vote on what's in or not, then this should have been the first to go.

Pretty steamy stuff going on there that given Solomon's rep with the ladies, leads me to the conclusion that it has nothing to do with the church.

probably has nothing to do with any church. But has a lot to do with being a human being.

I can't recall a single Sunday School lesson on Songs. Can't imagine why.

I recall many. Sorry for you about that. They were fun!!

I even recall several sermons from this text. Great jumping off point for me to talk about sex with my kids. Much to their dismay.

[_Jason Bourne]

I am not being "catty" when I ask questions. Sometimes I need to know what others think and believe before I can try to address what is being forwarded and so you might see me asking divergent questions which is exactly what I do as a teacher of children and adults.



So I am not being facetious, I am trying to find out where the beginning is and will try to follow the thinking from that point and forward.

I've run into a few posters who feel insulted when I explain my position. They criticize me because they think that I think I'm their teacher.

Quite the contrary is true. I think I can learn with them. If you understand that there is a difference, then you'll "get" me.

:-)

I don't have a problem with this at all and appreciate your explanation.