Many here fear Mormons but...

[_Hoops]

What exactly are we supposed to be afraid of?

Crazy ideas put into action, irrational decision making and liver and onions.

Agreed. We need look no further than the crazy ideas put into action now, why be scared of crazy ideas that might, with the slightest, remotest chance, be put into action?

If you wanna fear, fear that.

[_Chap]

The article talked about Palin receiving a blessing from one of these persons to protect her from witches.

She was prayed over. And that somehow translates into her supporting their world domination? Come on.

Nope. But it translates into her being someone who is happy buddying with people who believe in witches, and being blessed by them with anti-witch protection. Here is an article with a video:

Thomas Muthee, a Kenyan who is a regular preacher at Palin's local Pentecostal church in Wasilla, made a passionate plea to defeat witchcraft and other supposed enemies of Palin during a sermon three years ago.

The role of the witchfinder in the life of the vice-presidential candidate running mate raises new questions about how much his team investigated her background before naming her as John McCain's running mate.

The video, available on YouTube, shows Palin standing in front of him at the service, head bowed, her hands held by two members of the congregation.

Muthee, in the sermon, calls on church members to try to gain footholds in centres of influence, such as politics and the media, and praises Palin for her bid to become governor of Alaska. He spoke about the hindrances she faced from her enemies. "In the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus, every form of witchcraft is what you rebuke. In the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus, father make away now," Muthee said.

In a video that emerged last week Palin, in a speech to the church on June 8, thanked Muthee for his help in getting her elected governor. She said his invocation was "very, very powerful".

I just love the idea of her getting her hands on the nuclear launch codes, don't you?

And the wonderful thing is that there are lots and lots of people with votes who could read that article, watch that video, and feel quite comfortable about it all. After all, there are witches in the Bible, aren't there?

[_Hoops]

Nope. But it translates into her being someone who is happy buddying with people who believe in witches, and being blessed by them with anti-witch protection. Here is an article with a video:

No, it does not. It translates into her being prayed over by another Christian. This is just silly. Tell me how one can conclude that she "is happy buddying with people..." What does that even mean? She's a politician, for goodness sake. What, she's supposed to turn down being prayed for/over because the oh so enlightened atheist/agnostic/humanist lobby might be upset? You've never been more ridiculous.

I just love the idea of her getting her hands on the nuclear launch codes, don't you?

And the wonderful thing is that there are lots and lots of people with votes who could read that article, watch that video, and feel quite comfortable about it all. After all, there are witches in the Bible, aren't there?

Someone who believes that one's action are accountable to a Christian higher power? Yes, that certainly is terrible. I only wish she had spent years in a church pew listening to racist, disgusting sermons. Then she would get a free pass.

[_Chap]

Nope. But it translates into her being someone who is happy buddying with people who believe in witches, and being blessed by them with anti-witch protection. Here is an article with a video:

No, it does not. It translates into her being prayed over by another Christian. This is just silly. Tell me how one can conclude that she "is happy buddying with people..." What does that even mean? She's a politician, for goodness sake. What, she's supposed to turn down being prayed for/over because the oh so enlightened atheist/agnostic/humanist lobby might be upset? You've never been more ridiculous.

The church where the video was taken was said to be her regular church. And that church has a pastor who believes in witches. If you don't like 'happy buddying with' people who believe in witches, how about 'happy fellowshiping with' or ' happy being preached to by' people who believe in witches? She is certainly happy to receive blessings to protect her from witches, since the video shows her doing just that, and there is no reason to suppose she was under duress or unfamiliar with the kind of blessing this pastor was likely to give.

Incidentally, do you think you could learn to use the quote feature so that you attribute quotes to the people who made them? If you do it right, it works automatically.

I just love the idea of her getting her hands on the nuclear launch codes, don't you?

And the wonderful thing is that there are lots and lots of people with votes who could read that article, watch that video, and feel quite comfortable about it all. After all, there are witches in the Bible, aren't there?

Someone who believes that one's action are accountable to a Christian higher power? Yes, that certainly is terrible. I only wish she had spent years in a church pew listening to racist, disgusting sermons. Then she would get a free pass.

No, the terrible thing is the believing in witches bit.

Do you believe in witches, by the way?

[_Hoops]

Incidentally, do you think you could learn to use the quote feature so that you attribute quotes to the people who made them?

No.

[_Chap]

Incidentally, do you think you could learn to use the quote feature so that you attribute quotes to the people who made them?

No.

OK. Can't do quotes.

Believe in witches though?

[_Hoops]

OK. Can't do quotes.

Believe in witches though?

This may the dumbest question and criticism I have ever heard. I know you're not a simpleton, but your question does little to disabuse one of that evaluation.

[_Chap]

OK. Can't do quotes.

Believe in witches though?

This may the dumbest question and criticism I have ever heard. I know you're not a simpleton, but your question does little to disabuse one of that evaluation.

The pastor of that church that Sarah Palin was blessed at believes in witches, and they are in the Bible, a book I believe that you take seriously as being the word of your deity:

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Deuteronomy 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

2 Kings 9:22 And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?

2 Chronicles 33:6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

Micah 5:12 And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more soothsayers:

Nahum 3:4 Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the wellfavoured harlot, the mistress of witchcrafts, that selleth nations through her whoredoms, and families through her witchcrafts.

Galatians 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

I have now asked twice whether you believe in witches or not, as the pastor who blessed Sarah Palin evidently does, and you have not said "yes" or "no". Odd, that ...