I've switched sides...again

[_hatersinmyward]

nvm.

Lets just put his post through the software the BYU students engineered in order to prove the Book of Mormon was actually written by multiple authors? Oh yeah, that would be frick'en pointless.

[_hatersinmyward]

So it's a three way? either way, it's illegal in most states.

[_hatersinmyward]

nvm.

Lets just put his post through the software the BYU students engineered in order to prove the Book of Mormon was actually written by multiple authors? Oh yeah, that would be frick'en pointless.

What we ought to do is cross reference a copy of an original Book of Mormon pressing with the Journals of Joseph, Martin and Oliver using the BYU software.

[_hatersinmyward]

naww... screw it.

[_Buffalo]

I'm a lazy guy Hades.

I always said when I left church that I would find my own ways to serve. I ended up just watching sports or playing video games in lieu of church callings/service.

If I'm more active in church, they'll provide ways for me to serve. Sometimes I'll just have to show up to serve (others already having performed the ground-work to get the service activity going).

Some may not need a vehicle because they live the golden rule and I respect them for it.

I know I'm repeating myself, but the LDS church is a terrible place if you're interested in serving others. The Mormon idea of service is going to people's houses to read of the FP message, or doing some light gardening. No soup kitchens. No meaningful service.

If you're interested in mostly meaningless busy work, however, the LDS church is perfect.

[_consiglieri]

It all goes back to a faithful experience that no scientific answer I've searched for adequately explains (to me; I've no doubt it may for others). It is that spiritual experience that keeps resurfacing in my mind and almost compels me to seek out the LDS church again.

I know how you feel, Abaddon. If it weren't for the things I've experienced, there is no way I would still be a Mormon.

I understand that there are many intellectual arguments against Mormonism. On the other hand, I feel there are also many things about Mormonism my intellect cannot simply explain away.

But at bottom, I can't get away from the feeling that we are not simply bipedal intellects. We have another component to our being, whether we call it a heart, a soul, a spirit, or our "bowels." I think it is important to be true not only to our intellect, but also to our heart.

I am not sure it is fair to allow one to Trump the other.

These two parts of our being are often at odds with each other, but we have to make our peace and live with them as best we can.

I wish you only good things and happiness.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_consiglieri]

Buffalo you need to get some professional help, everyone will benefit from a gay drama vaccine.

As much as they would benefit from a hatersinmyward vaccine?

[_Nomad]

It all goes back to a faithful experience that no scientific answer I've searched for adequately explains (to me; I've no doubt it may for others). It is that spiritual experience that keeps resurfacing in my mind and almost compels me to seek out the LDS church again.

I know how you feel, Abaddon. If it weren't for the things I've experienced, there is no way I would still be a Mormon.

I understand that there are many intellectual arguments against Mormonism. On the other hand, I feel there are also many things about Mormonism my intellect cannot simply explain away.

But at bottom, I can't get away from the feeling that we are not simply bipedal intellects. We have another component to our being, whether we call it a heart, a soul, a spirit, or our "bowels." I think it is important to be true not only to our intellect, but also to our heart.

I am not sure it is fair to allow one to Trump the other.

These two parts of our being are often at odds with each other, but we have to make our peace and live with them as best we can.

I wish you only good things and happiness.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

Well said, consiglieri. My sincere compliments.

[_Themis]

These two parts of our being are often at odds with each other, but we have to make our peace and live with them as best we can.

I try not to attach certain meanings to the spiritual part if it contradicts to much the other, which has shown much more reliable explaining the world around us. :)

[_Chap]

I too find Consiglieri's post humane and respectful. But this is a discussion board, and I hope he will not be offended if I note that the blanks in the format of this sentence of his;

I understand that there are many intellectual arguments against <system of religious belief>. On the other hand, I feel there are also many things about <system of religious belief> my intellect cannot simply explain away.

can be filled in with a very, very long and perfectly equivalent list of entities, depending on the religion in which the person filling in the form was brought up, e.g.

I understand that there are many intellectual arguments against pentecostalism. On the other hand, I feel there are also many things about pentecostalism my intellect cannot simply explain away.

I understand that there are many intellectual arguments against Roman Catholicism. On the other hand, I feel there are also many things about Roman Catholicism my intellect cannot simply explain away.

I understand that there are many intellectual arguments against Islam. On the other hand, I feel there are also many things about Islam my intellect cannot simply explain away.

I understand that there are many intellectual arguments against Vodou. On the other hand, I feel there are also many things about Vodou my intellect cannot simply explain away.

and so on.