WhistleBlower wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:10 pm
This is just one of the places where I've chosen to post this information, not really even because I'd like to convince you all of anything. I want John to know that people are tired of his hypocrisy and the fact that he has the gall to speak out for abuse victims is appalling.
You seem to be more concerned with slinging accusations than actually taking action to find this 'Rosebud' justice. If a crime was committed against me I would for sure not be trying to convince people I don't know on a fairly small internet forum of such a story. If the accusations carried criminal activity I would report them to the authorities. If they were moral or ethical in nature I would release information that shows such immoral or unethical behavior on the accused part and evidence that clears my name.
WhistleBlower wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:10 pm
I would be more than happy if Open Stories Foundation booted John and was able to continue on with someone who has integrity. If you actually read what I wrote, you will see that I acknowledge that MS and Open Stories Foundation has done very very important work. But it's all clouded by John's lies, manipulation and abuse.
I did read what you wrote, I never said you thought that MS and Open Stories Foundation have not done important work. If
you actually read what I wrote, I made the argument that even if John Dehlin was 'taken down' that MS and Open Stories Foundation would continue on relatively unharmed. With this knowledge, it makes your posts here even more questionable considering you claim to have inculpatory evidence that John Dehlin has actually carried out the actions you accuse him of. Release it, leak it, clear the air. You've presented us with a 'he said she said' situation and asking us to believe you 'just because' is quite naïve of you.
WhistleBlower wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:10 pm
My motivation is to get John to go away. He's not deserving of the influence he has in the progressive Mormon world.
As I said above, provide the evidence of his actions that you claim to have. This is a pretty simple equation. Accusations + Evidence = We believe you. Accusations + No Evidence = We don't believe you. If the world operated in the way you want it to operate, and we believed everything you said 'just because', the world would be an incredibly dark and terrifying place.
WhistleBlower wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:10 pm
If you want to call that a personal vendetta, fine. I'm sure there were plenty of people who characterized the Harvey Weinstein scandal as a personal vendetta. The film industry is better off now that he's gone. Progressive/ex Mormonism will be better off when John is gone as well. That is my goal.
As others have said, the fact that you seem to be posting this information on a fairly fringe Mormon/exmormon forum does seem to imply your intentions are personal in nature. In the very example you provided, accusers came forward and worked with law enforcement to provide evidence that eventually ended Harvey Weinstein up in prison. It's strange that you use him as an example considering this example is in direct contradiction of your accusations. As I outlined above: Accusations + Evidence = We believe you. If your intent was to seek justice for Rosebud, you would take action to clear her name and to show that John Dehlin is truly guilty of his heinous crimes. But no, you post here without evidence of any action on anyone's part trying to convince internet strangers of his guilt. Quite strange in my opinion.
Let me make this clear. I am willing to believe anyone who accuses anyone of any crime as long as there is evidence to support that.
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