Scottie wrote:Some Schmo wrote:The USA is god country primarily because they print all the money they need. Don't have enough? Print... I mean... pray more!
Great! Where do I print some??
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Is it moral to stiff creditors while paying a full tithe?
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bcspace wrote:Is it moral to stiff creditors while paying a full tithe?
God is the primary mortage holder and if the tenth belongs to God, it wasn't available to any other creditors in the first place so there's not even a question of ethics here.
So should the bank or lending company factor this in ahead of time when approving someone for a loan?
Is it true that you can't be a bishop if you've filed for bankruptcy?
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God is the primary mortage holder and if the tenth belongs to God, it wasn't available to any other creditors in the first place so there's not even a question of ethics here.Yep, because nobody has had their income drop during these booming economic times.
If income drops, the amount of a full tithe drops by definition.
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Reminds me of several news stories where fraudsters gave chunks of money to the Church and the Church required a court order forcing them to return the ill gotten gain.
Was the Church acting under the Doctrine of Finders-Keepers, Losers-Weepers or should they have observed the Law of the Avoidance of Impropriety and Drinking Anything Amber or Brown?
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Was the Church acting under the Doctrine of Finders-Keepers, Losers-Weepers or should they have observed the Law of the Avoidance of Impropriety and Drinking Anything Amber or Brown?
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bcspace wrote:Is it moral to stiff creditors while paying a full tithe?
God is the primary mortage holder and if the tenth belongs to God, it wasn't available to any other creditors in the first place so there's not even a question of ethics here.
So you would pay your tithing first, even if that meant others went to the wall, lost their jobs etc because they in turn didn't have the means to make ends meet?
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ajax18 wrote:So should the bank or lending company factor this in ahead of time when approving someone for a loan?
The honest tithe payer/borrower would only expect to be able to use 90% of his income for borrowing purposes. I doubt that happens very often though.
Is it true that you can't be a bishop if you've filed for bankruptcy?
Half the population of Utah wouldn't be eligible, if that were the case.
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bcspace wrote:
If income drops, the amount of a full tithe drops by definition.
Yes. But their other bills don't drop. It's really simple, a budget that worked at the original income level all of a sudden doesn't work at the new income level. It is happening all over the country if you read the news.
The correct answer has already been given. If you pay tithing first, all of the other bills will magically be paid. That is the official doctrine.
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bcspace wrote:Is it moral to stiff creditors while paying a full tithe?
God is the primary mortage holder and if the tenth belongs to God, it wasn't available to any other creditors in the first place so there's not even a question of ethics here.
God's a funny guy. He can handle quantum physics, but he's no good at finance.
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You are supposed to pay tithing before you buy food or clothing. You can always go back to the bishop and ask him to provide you with food and clothing if you run short. They are very generous at giving people food and clothing that was acquired from the tithing money of the people begging for food and clothing.
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