Simon Belmont wrote:I guess this the best answer I am going to get from you. To your credit, it's more than I expected. So thanks for that. I really wish someone would go through and list the "nearly three decades of relentlessly crappy behavior, viciousness, smear tactics, and what have you" that you always talk about. I'm just not seeing it. I honestly don't see it.
Yes, I know, Simon. And this is what? Like the thirtieth or fortieth time you've said exactly the same thing? You "don't see it," and you never will. End of story. Have a nice life.
And the problem with you and your ilk, Simon, is that you just keep encourage the crappy stuff. Wouldn't the world be a better place if Dr. Peterson focused on his Middle Easter scholarship, and on projects like Mormon Scholars Testify? You know the answer is, "Yes," and so does he, because he's said the same thing repeatedly.
Yes, I agree with you there. Although, if I'm not mistaken, you hate MST. You've repeatedly commented on it negatively. Do you like it now? I like it a lot. I think it's a great idea, for what it's worth.
I think MST is grossly manipulative of the people who are sincerely bearing their testimonies. That said, I think it's a hell of a lot better than the FARMS or SHIELDS stuff, say. It's better than playing Fake G.A. and telling Rollo that he's going to have to kneel at the Judgement Bar. Etc., etc.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
DCP has finally figured out who you are and you really are a woman and he's taunting you with this knowledge
DCP has finally figured out how to troll you
5. There is an unacknowledged fantasy of Scratch dressed in a black leather teddy, with high heels, mask, and a matching leather riding crop going on. Who among the men on this board would not cry out, "Gnaden-bitte Geliebte-Kratzer!"?
quark wrote:Why did DCP leave this place? He seems to enjoy the parade. He enjoys it so much, he has to joke about it with cronies on yonder board.
But I need to be understanding. We all look for validation in various ways.
He left because he was being asked reasonable questions to which he steadfastly refused to answer. In the end it was so embarrassing for him he left.
Jointly with the above and at the same time
He left because an examination of some of his scholarly work showed some extremely embarassing...hmmm...let's call them deficiencies in his ability to provide accuracy and intellectual honesty. It was so embarassing for him he left.
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Doctor Scratch wrote: ... My own two cents--and I've said this before--is that he's squandered his professional life. Instead of a bunch of worthwhile books and articles on Middle Eastern subjects, what we're left with is this huge body of Mopologetic works, and it's just hard for me to fathom a bright person pissing his life away in that fashion. What a tragedy. I mean, when you step back: this is just a colossal waste. Yes: he's done some lectures and led some tours, participated on panels and in conferences and what have you. Big whoop. The stuff that really should have mattered is the stuff he passed up in order to do apologetics. (He'll cite his editing work for METI as something important, but it's really pretty small potatoes, all things considered.)
... Wouldn't the world be a better place if Dr. Peterson focused on his Middle Eastern scholarship? ... .
True dat. Anyone can churn out apologetics and be superior to critics on message boards. DCP should get on with doing what his academic training and talents equip him for.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
You asked why Scratch has chosen to follow around Daniel for the last five years.
In all fairness, I do think that Scratch has sufficiently answered the question on multiple occasions.
However, I think that you do bring up a good point that newcomers might not be aware of the reasons.
My understanding is that what prompted Scratch to go toe to toe with DCP to begin with, was Daniel's mistreatment of apologetic critics. There are other apologists who have, in my opinion, treated critics far worse than Daniel. Pahoran and Will come to mind. However, since Daniel is the editor of MI (formerly known as FARMS), and has a great deal of influence in the apologetic world, he has been identified by Scratch as the leader of these actions. The greatest affront, according to Scratch, has to do with DCP's supposed treatment of Michael D. Quinn. I say supposed because DCP insists that there is no wrong-doing on his part. Scratch insists that there is.
Scratch is welcome to go into more detail, or refer you to old threads describing more details into why this crusade has taken place for five years, but I believe I have captured the gist.
I had hoped, for both of them, really, that there would be some end in sight to this, but I really don't see that happening.
Doctor Scratch wrote:Well, what do you know? As luck would have it, Dr. Peterson has been reading this thread!
DCP wrote:LOL. It appears that I need to apologize.
My hypersecretive Malevolent Stalker is actually male -- and a rage-fueled sexist, to boot. He has, it seems, absolutely blown a gasket elsewhere because I referred to him, above, as "she," and has started yet another thread about me (his fourth or fifth, I think, in the past few days) in order to hyperventilate about what he clearly regards as one of the worst insults that could be directed against him.
I was just being even-handed -- since I knew nothing whatever about his personal circumstances, including his gender, it seemed to me fair and reasonable to refer to him as a "she." But he apparently regards it as a terrible thing to be female.
My apologies to the Stalker. (I know that he'll read this.)
Stem, are you ready to admit I was right about Peterson still obsessively reading this board for any mention of his name?
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