How strong is your current testimony? (Poll)

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How strong is your current testimony? (Poll)

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Please see the attached 6 options which (roughly) represent a scale of belief levels.

Pick the one which best fits your current testimony of Mormonism.
Add comments as appropriate.

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If you have never been a member of the LDS Church please could you refrain from voting but feel free to post a comment.
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Re: How strong is your current testimony? (Poll)

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What does the word "true" mean? :P

I know that the LDS church/corporation is not what it claims to be. I know that it is a real church/corporation.
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just me wrote:What does the word "true" mean? :P

I know that the LDS church/corporation is not what it claims to be. I know that it is a real church/corporation.


True means Mormonism is exactly what Mormonism officially claims to be :-)
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Re: How strong is your current testimony? (Poll)

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Drifting wrote:
Note:
If you have never been a member of the LDS Church please could you refrain from voting but feel free to post a comment.



Merry Christmas to all :)


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Re: How strong is your current testimony? (Poll)

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The problem with the question is that it doesn't really encompass my particular testimony. I am not sure how to answer. If you were to state, "I know the gospel of Jesus Christ is true," my answer would be yes.

I don't necessarily view "the Church" and "the gospel" as the same thing.

"The Church" is the organization. It is not the gospel.
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"The Church" is the organization. It is not the gospel.


According to the Bible (Ephesians 4:11-14) they are one and the same in the sense that you can't have one without the other. The Church organization is THE vehicle by which the gospel is taught.
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bcspace wrote:
"The Church" is the organization. It is not the gospel.


According to the Bible (Ephesians 4:11-14) they are one and the same in the sense that you can't have one without the other. The Church organization is THE vehicle by which the gospel is taught.


Self-refuting argument.
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Self-refuting argument.


Doesn't appear to be.
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Re: How strong is your current testimony? (Poll)

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liz3564 wrote:The problem with the question is that it doesn't really encompass my particular testimony. I am not sure how to answer. If you were to state, "I know the gospel of Jesus Christ is true," my answer would be yes.

I don't necessarily view "the Church" and "the gospel" as the same thing.

"The Church" is the organization. It is not the gospel.


For the purposes of the poll take it to refer to the gospel teachings and doctrines and inspired practices, ordinances etc.

Pick which one best fits :-)
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Re: How strong is your current testimony? (Poll)

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bcspace wrote:
"The Church" is the organization. It is not the gospel.


According to the Bible (Ephesians 4:11-14) they are one and the same in the sense that you can't have one without the other. The Church organization is THE vehicle by which the gospel is taught.


Seems like one must acknowledge the difference between the vehicle and the Gospel in order for that sentence to make sense.

The Gospel came before churches, so at best one could maintain that church is the venue through which group observance of the Gospel teachings (or even worship of the Gospel for Evangelicals) can occur.

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