Simon Belmont: This is what "quote mining" means

[_Darth J]

vi·car·i·ous

adjective

1.
performed, exercised, received, or suffered in place of another: vicarious punishment.
2.
taking the place of another person or thing; acting or serving as a substitute.
3.
felt or enjoyed through imagined participation in the experience of others: a vicarious thrill.
4.
Physiology . noting or pertaining to a situation in which one organ performs part of the functions normally performed by another.

[_asbestosman]

True, it does not make sense how Christ could know what it is like for a woman to be raped because he was not a woman.

NUH-UH!!!!

Sure it does. I experience all sorts of things in dreams, and while I'm sure those dream experiences don't feel exactly the same as the waking life experiences, I see no reason in principle that they could not. I see no reason that in the future, one brain could be made to feel the experiences of another body, or even the sensations from another brain. I recall a scene in Minority Report where there was a guy who ran a simulation business where people could experience all sorts of things--killing their boss, changing gender, etc. If we're dealing with an omnipotent God here, why couldn't He experience a realistic simulation of all those things without actually having those things in done to Him?

Does the logical possibility mean that it must have happened? No.

[_Simon Belmont]

Some people just can't admit they're wrong. I should have realized this was just another Darth J "gotcha" game.

I assure you, the Church Dee Jay describes is not my church, it is not The Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[_Buffalo]

Some people just can't admit they're wrong. I should have realized this was just another Darth J "gotcha" game.

I assure you, the Church you describe is not my church, it is not The Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Yes, that's because you're not a faithful, believing member of The Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[_Simon Belmont]

3.
felt or enjoyed through imagined participation in the experience of others: a vicarious thrill.

So, according to you, Jesus imagined being raped?

You're really struggling here, DJ. Just admit you misrepresent the church and move on.

[_Buffalo]

3.
felt or enjoyed through imagined participation in the experience of others: a vicarious thrill.

So, according to you, Jesus imagined being raped?

You're really struggling here, DJ. Just admit you misrepresent the church and move on.

I never thought I'd see Simon deny Christ's atonement just for trolling purposes. I can't imagine a true believer doing this.

[_just me]

So, according to you, Jesus imagined being raped?

You're really struggling here, DJ. Just admit you misrepresent the church and move on.

I never thought I'd see Simon deny Christ's atonement just for trolling purposes. I can't imagine a true believer doing this.

It is awesome to behold!

[_Simon Belmont]

It is awesome to behold!

It also isn't true. Christ died for all of us, to redeem all of us.

[_just me]

It is awesome to behold!

It also isn't true. Christ died for all of us, to redeem all of us.

But he didn't suffer for our sins and afflictions?

[_Darth J]

3.
felt or enjoyed through imagined participation in the experience of others: a vicarious thrill.

So, according to you, Jesus imagined being raped?

You're really struggling here, DJ. Just admit you misrepresent the church and move on.

See that "felt OR enjoyed"?

What role does the disjunctive play in English grammar, Simon?