Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?
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Simon:
How is it that the FAIR wiki uses the term "Amerindian"? http://en.fairmormon.org/index.php?titl ... dian&go=Go
What on Earth could this made-up term possibly mean?
It must be an anagram!
Or maybe it's a palindrome!
How is it that the FAIR wiki uses the term "Amerindian"? http://en.fairmormon.org/index.php?titl ... dian&go=Go
What on Earth could this made-up term possibly mean?
It must be an anagram!
Or maybe it's a palindrome!
Re: Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?
Find the Evidence To Back Up Darth J's Assertions!
For 20 points, where did Simon Belmont say that a portmanteau was an anagram?
Oh, really? So, in your opinion, anything anyone makes up is valid because "hey, it's a neologism!"
In that case: I declare hættup a new word, meaning "Darth J. thinks Jesus grew a temporary vagina."
Darth J wrote:It's unfortunate that in your strategy of ignoring objective reality, you are saying that I am "flailing" when I already said that "Moplogist" is a portmanteau. A portmanteau is not an anagram, Simon.
For 20 points, where did Simon Belmont say that a portmanteau was an anagram?
Also, since you keep referring to "made-up" words, you appear not to know what a neologism is.
Oh, really? So, in your opinion, anything anyone makes up is valid because "hey, it's a neologism!"
In that case: I declare hættup a new word, meaning "Darth J. thinks Jesus grew a temporary vagina."
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Simon Belmont wrote:Find the Evidence To Back Up Darth J's Assertions!Darth J wrote:It's unfortunate that in your strategy of ignoring objective reality, you are saying that I am "flailing" when I already said that "Moplogist" is a portmanteau. A portmanteau is not an anagram, Simon.
For 20 points, where did Simon Belmont say that a portmanteau was an anagram?
When I said "Moplogist" is a portmanteau, and in response, you said, "Anagram it anyway you like, you can't find those two terms in that made-up word."
Also, since you keep referring to "made-up" words, you appear not to know what a neologism is.
Oh, really? So, in your opinion, anything anyone makes up is valid because "hey, it's a neologism!"
No, because I am not the only one who uses the term "Mopologist." By definition, a neologism is a word that is in the process of entering common usage.
Example: http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&h ... c4acba4ec5
In that case: I declare hættup a new word, meaning "Darth J. thinks Jesus grew a temporary vagina."
That would be the way psychiatry defines a neologism. "In psychiatry, the term neologism is used to describe the use of words that have meaning only to the person who uses them, independent of their common meaning." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism
In order for this to be a legitimate neologism, you would have to establish two things.
First, that any reasonable person would infer from anything I have ever said that according to LDS doctrine, Jesus would have needed to have a vagina in order to vicariously experience the pain of a woman being raped. Your continuing failure to do so, when it would very much behoove you if you could, is indicative of how you are misrepresenting what I said.
Second, you would have to establish that anyone besides yourself is using this term in this way.
Speaking of psychiatrists, a competent one could probably help you a lot, but admitting that you already know the Church isn't true would go a long way toward returning to sanity as well.
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Everytime I read DarthJ and Simon go at it I feel like I'm looking at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxW8TLtUMfM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxW8TLtUMfM
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Mopologists: What's left? or, what's next?
Simon Belmont wrote:Darth J wrote:A Mormon apologist.
Is it pretty standard when you are taking graduate-level courses in law for people not to understand that taking disparate words and combining them creates a unique terminology apart from the etymology of the component words? If those disparate words have no definition, the combined "word" will also have no definition. In other words, 0+0 = 0.
So, with that in mind, please define the separate words (as you referred to them)
Mo
Pologist
Simon, looking at your contribution to this thread and the question of "What's left? or what's next?" it would appear you feel the only thing left worth discussion is the name given to people who try to defend specific aspects of Mormonism.
This is a bit like when we tried to discuss the contents of Grant Palmers book "An Insiders View of Mormon Origins" and your only contribution was to try and debate what "insider' should mean. When challenged on the substance of the book you had no defense. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
It is therefore correct to assume that you now only desire to split hairs about what certain words mean?
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The next entry of that dictionary will be simonbelmontism.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Re: Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?
Darth J wrote:No, because I am not the only one who uses the term "Mopologist." By definition, a neologism is a word that is in the process of entering common usage.
As of last night, I am not the only one who uses the term hættup; my World of Warcraft guild now uses it, as does my Second Life family, and my Sims characters. Tonight I shall tell my Lord of the Rings Online guild, as well as my Star Wars Galaxies order.
So, I guess it's a word by your definition, huh DJ?
Man... I can't believe hættup!
And, by the way, any reasonable person would think that "mopologist" is a person in the field of mopology, the study of mops and other floor cleaning utilities.
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Simon Belmont wrote:Darth J wrote:A Mormon apologist.
Is it pretty standard when you are taking graduate-level courses in law for people not to understand that taking disparate words and combining them creates a unique terminology apart from the etymology of the component words? If those disparate words have no definition, the combined "word" will also have no definition. In other words, 0+0 = 0.
So, with that in mind, please define the separate words (as you referred to them)
Mo
Pologist
Can't
Can
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I can identify can, but what's this 't thing? Why, it's not even a word!
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Simon Belmont wrote:
As of last night, I am not the only one who uses the term hættup; my World of Warcraft guild now uses it, as does my Second Life family, and my Sims characters. Tonight I shall tell my Lord of the Rings Online guild, as well as my Star Wars Galaxies order.
So, I guess it's a word by your definition, huh DJ?
Man... I can't believe hættup!/quote]
Good luck with your neologism, Simon! I'm sure it will catch on in no time!And, by the way, any reasonable person would think that "mopologist" is a person in the field of mopology, the study of mops and other floor cleaning utilities.
Entirely too apt an imagery for Mormon apologetics.
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Simon Belmont wrote:And, by the way, any reasonable person would think that "mopologist" is a person in the field of mopology, the study of mops and other floor cleaning utilities.
A remarkable similar definition to the real one.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.