Kim Jong Il and Joseph Smith

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sock puppet wrote:Anti might be a stretch.


Then what would you call him? A "good teacher"? A "great man"?

A pretender?
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RayAgostini wrote:
sock puppet wrote:Anti might be a stretch.


Then what would you call him? A "good teacher"? A "great man"?

A pretender?

Someone around whom a religious myth was fabricated, because he had some odd ball qualities and charisma. Of course, it helped that he had long been dead before the myth weaving began.
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sock puppet wrote:Someone around whom a religious myth was fabricated, because he had some odd ball qualities and charisma. Of course, it helped that he had long been dead before the myth weaving began.


What were those "odd ball" qualities?
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I doubt it. Comparing him to the cartoonishly evil Korean is just way off.

I mean, he wasn't this evil.
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RayAgostini wrote:
sock puppet wrote:Someone around whom a religious myth was fabricated, because he had some odd ball qualities and charisma. Of course, it helped that he had long been dead before the myth weaving began.


What were those "odd ball" qualities?

What qualities did he exhibit, per the myth, that his contemporaries did not? According to the myth, he was not like others. Ergo, odd ball.
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sock puppet wrote:What qualities did he exhibit, per the myth, that his contemporaries did not? According to the myth, he was not like others. Ergo, odd ball.


Not specific. What does "not like others" mean? Healing the sick and raising the dead is "not like others", and therefore "oddball"?
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RayAgostini wrote:
sock puppet wrote:What qualities did he exhibit, per the myth, that his contemporaries did not? According to the myth, he was not like others. Ergo, odd ball.


Not specific. What does "not like others" mean? Healing the sick and raising the dead is "not like others", and therefore "oddball"?

No. The 'healing the sick and raising the dead' is part of the myth. If miracles were really occurring, that would have been worthy of being written down contemporaneously by those that witnessed it. It would not have taken years and years after his death for them to be jotted down.

Jesus is perhaps the name of a man who was crucified in Jerusalem by the Romans, circa 33-40 AD. His only offense was perhaps having crossed the Roman governor, maybe having been too vocal in expressing his disdain for their occupying Jerusalem. A confidant perhaps betrayed him for a small pittance.

He had some friends, men and women, but he was not married. Somewhat of a vagabond without a home. He might have lasted on the cross longer than the other two. So he was stabbed with a spear to put him out of his misery.

His body came up missing soon after being entombed.

This loose story line was a perfect skeleton to hang the already handed down myth details of surrounding cultures, from earlier centuries.
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sock puppet wrote:No. The 'healing the sick and raising the dead' is part of the myth. If miracles were really occurring, that would have been worthy of being written down contemporaneously by those that witnessed it. It would not have taken years and years after his death for them to be jotted down.

Jesus is perhaps the name of a man who was crucified in Jerusalem by the Romans, circa 33-40 AD. His only offense was perhaps having crossed the Roman governor, maybe having been to vocal in expressing his disdain for their occupying Jerusalem. A confidant perhaps betrayed him for a small pittance.

He had some friends, men and women, but he was not married. Somewhat of a vagabond without a home. He might have lasted on the cross longer than the other two. So he was stabbed with a spear to put him out of his misery.

His body came up missing soon after being entombed.

This loose story line was a perfect skeleton to hang the already handed down myth details of surrounding cultures, from earlier centuries.
(Emphasis added)

Thus saith SP. Fifth, sixth, or seventh gospel?

Perhaps?

God bless your dupes, who are, of course, "all rational" and "only go on the evidence" of the "five senses". Could there be anything else? Hell, NO!
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RayAgostini wrote:
sock puppet wrote:No. The 'healing the sick and raising the dead' is part of the myth. If miracles were really occurring, that would have been worthy of being written down contemporaneously by those that witnessed it. It would not have taken years and years after his death for them to be jotted down.

Jesus is perhaps the name of a man who was crucified in Jerusalem by the Romans, circa 33-40 AD. His only offense was perhaps having crossed the Roman governor, maybe having been to vocal in expressing his disdain for their occupying Jerusalem. A confidant perhaps betrayed him for a small pittance.

He had some friends, men and women, but he was not married. Somewhat of a vagabond without a home. He might have lasted on the cross longer than the other two. So he was stabbed with a spear to put him out of his misery.

His body came up missing soon after being entombed.

This loose story line was a perfect skeleton to hang the already handed down myth details of surrounding cultures, from earlier centuries.
(Emphasis added)

Thus saith SP. Fifth, sixth, or seventh gospel?

Perhaps?

God bless your dupes, who are, of course, "all rational" and "only go on the evidence" of the "five senses". Could there be anything else? Hell, NO!

RayA, why do you think that Jesus' miracles were not worth writing down by anyone, for years, even decades, after he was dead?
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sock puppet wrote:RayA, why do you think that Jesus' miracles were not worth writing down by anyone, for years, even decades, after he was dead?


To test unbelievers like you!

You are DarthJ have one purpose in mind - to get people to "think like you", which you suppose is "rational", and will lead to....? Happiness? Yet you both have to ignore so much to preach your gospel of materialism, which you suppose will "bring happiness"? We cannot possibly understand anything, unless it can be "explained" by appealing to the five precious senses.

Darth lost the plot ages ago. You are now just his empty echo.
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