Bishop resigns from church

[_why me]

Who cares if he wants to tell his story. People have already explained why he is posting it again, but you want to ignore that. I don't see you complaining about LDS being attention seekers who also tell their story. Can you not see your own hypocrisy here. Again who cares. .

He doesn't seem too shy about challenging contrary posters on this blog. Nor does he seem to be suffering much. I am only responding in this thread because of the posters claiming that he is brave and noble. I don't think he is. First he sent a letter to all active members to get a reaction and maybe even to have some follow him out of the church. Then, he claims intensive study for 6 weeks learning facts that shook his testimony which was a decisive factor for him leaving.

Then he posts the same letter one year later to get more attention and more adulation. I don't see this as a brave act at all.

[_Runtu]

He doesn't seem too shy about challenging contrary posters on this blog. Nor does he seem to be suffering much. I am only responding in this thread because of the posters claiming that he is brave and noble. I don't think he is. First he sent a letter to all active members to get a reaction and maybe even to have some follow him out of the church. Then, he claims intensive study for 6 weeks learning facts that shook his testimony which was a decisive factor for him leaving.

Then he posts the same letter one year later to get more attention and more adulation. I don't see this as a brave act at all.

I don't care whether it's brave or not. I'm glad he posted it again, as I hadn't seen it. Who cares why he posted it? Does his reposting it invalidate his experience and opinions, or is it just something to beat him up over?

[_why me]

I really don't understand why this thread turned into one about me.

For anyone interested in the backstory of what the hell our dear friend why me is referring to in my case you can read here.

He believes that I should have told the Relief Society teacher that her story was racist. What is funny is that he has been known to tell other posters to keep their mouths shut.

Also, you sat quietly by while a member of class made a comment that you found wanting and posted it on the board in a different class. Here is the point: don't be silent. Speak up. People can learn from your experience and from your take on issues. Now I wouldn't bring contention into the class because that never works. But you certainly can say something.

I don't remember ever telling anyone to keep their mouth shut in class. Just the opposite. The bishop of this thread is an example. He also kept his mouth shut but kept the drama alive by writing a letter to all active members of the ward and most likely posting it to their home address. Quite brave, right?

[_why me]

I don't care whether it's brave or not. I'm glad he posted it again, as I hadn't seen it. Who cares why he posted it? Does his reposting it invalidate his experience and opinions, or is it just something to beat him up over?

I can't read his mind. But it does seem that he is enjoying the attention from the comments I have been reading.

[_Buffalo]

I don't care whether it's brave or not. I'm glad he posted it again, as I hadn't seen it. Who cares why he posted it? Does his reposting it invalidate his experience and opinions, or is it just something to beat him up over?

I can't read his mind. But it does seem that he is enjoying the attention from the comments I have been reading.

Why me, why do you persist on always persecuting those with a different faith from you?

[_MsJack]

Did I say correct someone? I said have a conversation about what someone has said in class. Nothing more.

You wanted just me to tell her Relief Society president right in the middle of class that she had said something racist. That would have been a correction.

Lets hope that your protestant manuals are much more interesting.

Most of them are. Maybe you should read one sometime so that you can compare. For example . . .

Poll: Judging a book by it's cover, which one of these manuals looks more interesting to study for a women's meeting in church?





I rest my case.

Your own antimormonism is showing in this post.

I don't have "antimormonism," nor was there anything anti-Mormon about that post.

Interesting how you can group a people all together in one stroke regardless of the country of orgin for the Mormon.

I did no such thing. I spoke from my own experience with Mormons in America, and I limited my statement to "plenty of Mormons." Not "all Mormons."

Glad that protestants are much more open minded in their ideas and in having their faith contradicted.

Depends on the Protestant, but in general, yes. The whole founding principle of the movement was the contradiction of someone else's religious ideas (i. e. the Catholic church at the time). I've had many Sunday school classes where I contradicted the instructor or other class members. I've even gotten away with saying Martin Luther sometimes makes me want to punch him in the face (it's true!). Nobody got angry at me, or called me into the pastor's office to discourage such comments, or expressed a desire for me to not be part of the family anymore.

[_why me]

You wanted just me to tell her Relief Society president right in the middle of class that she had said something racist. That would have been a correction.

No. I never told just me that she should tell the teacher that she is racist or that her story is racist. And I do believe that it was the relief society teacher. Racist is too stong a term. No need to mention the word. But the story could have been challenged and commented on. No problem.

[_why me]

Most of them are. Maybe you should read one sometime so that you can compare. For example . . .

Poll: Judging a book by it's cover, which one of these manuals looks more interesting to study for a women's meeting in church?





I rest my case.

Well, I must say that it would be interesting to imagine what is behind the veil. But never judge a book by its cover.

[_Themis]

Who cares if he wants to tell his story. People have already explained why he is posting it again, but you want to ignore that. I don't see you complaining about LDS being attention seekers who also tell their story. Can you not see your own hypocrisy here. Again who cares. .

He doesn't seem too shy about challenging contrary posters on this blog. Nor does he seem to be suffering much. I am only responding in this thread because of the posters claiming that he is brave and noble. I don't think he is. First he sent a letter to all active members to get a reaction and maybe even to have some follow him out of the church. Then, he claims intensive study for 6 weeks learning facts that shook his testimony which was a decisive factor for him leaving.

Then he posts the same letter one year later to get more attention and more adulation. I don't see this as a brave act at all.

So another words, no you cannot be fair minded. I expected as much. You say you cannot read his mind but then claim what you think he is doing even though he never said what you prescribe to him, and instead explained his reasons for doing so. Do you recall why he said he sent out a letter to all members, or do you want to avoid it some more?

by the way six weeks is more then enough time to see that the evidence is clearly against the church. As such, some can mentally get there quickly while others may take years before getting to that point.

[_why me]

by the way six weeks is more then enough time to see that the evidence is clearly against the church. As such, some can mentally get there quickly while others may take years before getting to that point.

I am sure that six weeks is plenty of enough time if one wants it to be. However, regardless what brigham said in the journal of discourses which has been sitting in members libraries for quite some time without much of a problem or what Joseph Smith did or did not do, has nothing to do with truth claims of the LDS church.

Joseph Smith was prone to anger and many of the flock found this behavior shocking for a prophet. Some found him looking not like a prophet. Others found him prone to joviality. Back in the day people had many reasons for leaving the church. And even Joseph Smith himself claimed that he was not very righteous as recorded in my sig line. So what?

The evidence is clearly not against the church.