In these trying times, good news on the horizon

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_Buffalo
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In these trying times, good news on the horizon

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7002 ... .html?pg=1

This makes me optimistic for the future of humanity. :)
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They're uninterested in trying to talk a diverse set of friends into a shared viewpoint in a culture that celebrates an idea that all truths are equally valid.

Emphasis mine.

Equally valid? Or equally invalid? Hmmmm.
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mms wrote:
They're uninterested in trying to talk a diverse set of friends into a shared viewpoint in a culture that celebrates an idea that all truths are equally valid.

Emphasis mine.

Equally valid? Or equally invalid? Hmmmm.


Yes.

The point is, people don't find the question of God very important or interesting anymore. We're evolving. :)
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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I decided today that I like Rev. Mariann Edgar Budde. Thanks for pointing me to her!

To be human is to have a sense of purpose, an awareness that our life is an utterly unique expression of creation and we want to live it with meaning, grace and beauty.


An advocate for spiritual curiosity!
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

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Why is this guy referred to this way?

Neither raging atheist scientist Richard Dawkins...


Why do people use the word "raging" on him?

Seriously, do a Google on that. Weird.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

The Holy Sacrament.
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zeezrom wrote:Why is this guy referred to this way?

Neither raging atheist scientist Richard Dawkins...


Why do people use the word "raging" on him?

Seriously, do a Google on that. Weird.


Because atheists remain a hated and discriminated against subclass. Believers feel it's appropriate to discriminate against them.

The great thing about going from Mormon to atheist is I no longer have to pretend to be discriminated against or hated for my beliefs. ;)
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Buffalo wrote:Because atheists remain a hated and discriminated against subclass. Believers feel it's appropriate to discriminate against them.

The great thing about going from Mormon to atheist is I no longer have to pretend to be discriminated against or hated for my beliefs. ;)

Hey Buff,

What would be worse: Tell my parents I'm a believer in Athena or that I'm an Atheist?

Honestly, I think they would prefer Atheist.

Actually.... They would prefer Atheist over any other religion. Joining another religion would be an insult upon insult to them.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

The Holy Sacrament.
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zeezrom wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Because atheists remain a hated and discriminated against subclass. Believers feel it's appropriate to discriminate against them.

The great thing about going from Mormon to atheist is I no longer have to pretend to be discriminated against or hated for my beliefs. ;)

Hey Buff,

What would be worse: Tell my parents I'm a believer in Athena or that I'm an Atheist?

Honestly, I think they would prefer Atheist.

Actually.... They would prefer Atheist over any other religion. Joining another religion would be an insult upon insult to them.


That's true, pagans are also hated. I don't think about them often because I don't meet any as general rule

The thing about Mormons is they HATE apostates, whether they become atheists or Christians or whatever. They have a great deal of tolerance for people of other faiths (not much for atheists, unless they're liberal Mormons). But if you start out Mormon and lose your faith, you become the enemy. It's sad.

Check out this woman's story.

http://mormonexpression.com/voices/2011 ... lt-waters/
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Hey Buff,

You should share thoughts on what it's like to participate in the LDS program as an atheist sometime. It would be fascinating.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)

The Holy Sacrament.
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zeezrom wrote:I decided today that I like Rev. Mariann Edgar Budde. Thanks for pointing me to her!

To be human is to have a sense of purpose, an awareness that our life is an utterly unique expression of creation and we want to live it with meaning, grace and beauty.


An advocate for spiritual curiosity!


Or an advocate for living and perceiving life in spiritual delight and exuberance.
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