Was Jesus a Mormon?

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Re: Was Jesus a Mormon?

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zeezrom wrote:Sigh,

Brian, you ask pretty cool questions but why do you have to be so arrogant sounding? I'm sure you are pretty cool in real life. Sitting in a Starbucks on a cool morning with you might be fun. Why post the s****y stuff, Brian? Why can't you be thankful people are spending their personal time to engage with you?

To the OP: it is a very good question. I feel that a god or angel is found to have Mormon qualities if he/she took the time to visit Mormons. We know Moroni, Peter, James, John, Elijah, and Ares (flaming sword) visited Joseph so they are all "Mormon". Jesus? Not so sure.


Zee brings up a good point, Brian. Welcome to the board.

One thing that you have managed to do is unite members and critics alike! LOL

Something that has seemed to fly by you without notice is that we are a community here at MDB. The community is made up of critics, ex-members, apologists, non-members, NOMs (New Order Mormons), and TBMs (True Blue Mormons or faithful LDS). In spite of the vast differences we have on various topics, we all respect each other as people. Many of us have formed strong friendships, having participated here for five years. We are, as I like to call us, a dysfunctional Internet family. LOL

If you remove the chip from your shoulder, I think you will find that you will achieve a much more positive result. You will still be able to engage and debate. You might even make some new friends in the process.

;-)
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Re: Was Jesus a Mormon?

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Stormy Waters wrote:Considering the anti-intellectual climate of the dark ages it is entirely possible that things that Jesus taught could have been entirely lost or that doctrines that were considered blasphemy suppressed.

considering that you just write stuff because you are fairly certain that no one here will you call you on it, you might go here for a different opinion. There's more if you like.

http://listverse.com/2008/06/09/top-10- ... -not-dark/
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Re: Was Jesus a Mormon?

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BrianH wrote:Obviously, Jesus' earthly life ended nearly 2,000 years before Mormonism appeared on the earth. The question represented in the title of this thread is (using more words than the title bar permits): Did the Lord Jesus Christ ever believe, teach or practice the distinguishing doctrines and practices of the LDS church which exists on the claim to have "restored" his gospel and which we would recognize as uniquely "Mormon" doctrines and practices.


Jesus, if indeed Jesus ever actually existed as posited or was mere myth as was Abraham, was a Jew, not a Christian.

Good grief.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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Re: Was Jesus a Mormon?

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liz3564 wrote:One thing that you have managed to do is unite members and critics alike! LOL

Something that has seemed to fly by you without notice is that we are a community here at MDB. The community is made up of critics, ex-members, apologists, non-members, NOMs (New Order Mormons), and TBMs (True Blue Mormons or faithful LDS). In spite of the vast differences we have on various topics, we all respect each other as people. Many of us have formed strong friendships, having participated here for five years. We are, as I like to call us, a dysfunctional Internet family. LOL

If you remove the chip from your shoulder, I think you will find that you will achieve a much more positive result. You will still be able to engage and debate. You might even make some new friends in the process.

;-)


No kidding. He still hasn't realized that the majority of the those responding to his arrogant shouting are not even Mormons. Still, he blithely yammers on in ignorance, calling everyone who answers him a Mormon, or, even more condescendingly, a "girl." (He's repeatedly misunderstood Corpsegrinder's avatar as suggestive of his gender, hence his "start acting like a big girl" nastiness to him.)
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Liz
If you remove the chip from your shoulder, I think you will find that you will achieve a much more positive result. You will still be able to engage and debate. You might even make some new friends in the process.


If he were to study the philosophy of the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians (and I don't mean specifically Ch 13) in the very Bible that he claims to trust and believe in, he wouldn't have a need for a chip on his shoulder.
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Re: Was Jesus a Mormon?

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Hoops wrote:
Stormy Waters wrote:Considering the anti-intellectual climate of the dark ages it is entirely possible that things that Jesus taught could have been entirely lost or that doctrines that were considered blasphemy suppressed.

considering that you just write stuff because you are fairly certain that no one here will you call you on it, you might go here for a different opinion. There's more if you like.

http://listverse.com/2008/06/09/top-10- ... -not-dark/


I'm just arguing with BrianH because he's an ass.
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Stormy Waters wrote:
I'm just arguing with BrianH because he's an ass.

Fair enough. That's a motivation I can understand.

:)
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Jersey Girl wrote:Liz
If you remove the chip from your shoulder, I think you will find that you will achieve a much more positive result. You will still be able to engage and debate. You might even make some new friends in the process.


If he were to study the philosophy of the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians (and I don't mean specifically Ch 13) in the very Bible that he claims to trust and believe in, he wouldn't have a need for a chip on his shoulder.


Okay, I have to admit that Ch 13, v. 1 isn't a bad start:

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.


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I remember a He-Man episode where Grayskull and HeMan joined forces for a common cause.

:)

Oops! I meant Skelator!
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Re: Was Jesus a Mormon?

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BrianH,

Your reading assignment for today.


1 Corinthians 9

1Am I am not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?

2If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord.

3Mine answer to them that do examine me is this,

4Have we not power to eat and to drink?

5Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?

6Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power to forbear working?

7Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?

8Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also?

9For it is written in the law of Moses, thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?

10Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

11If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?

12If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

13Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

14Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

15But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.

16For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

17For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

18What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

19For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

20And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

21To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

22To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

23And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

24Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

25And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

26I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:

27But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
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