I tried to tell TBM family that Mormons can't be Democrats

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bcspace wrote:Not at all. Republicans support ways of escape, checks and balances, and the like. Democrats support absolute tyranny.


I'm no Democrat, but that is not accurate. You can have a welfare state with checks and balances, and the like. We have now, in fact.
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I am no Republican. But it is accurate to say I am an anti Democrat. Obamacare is contrary to the Gospel of Jesus Christ as it is Socialism and therefore innately coercive.
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bcspace wrote:I am no Republican. But it is accurate to say I am an anti Democrat. Obamacare is contrary to the Gospel of Jesus Christ as it is Socialism and therefore innately coercive.


Do you think Medicare is also contrary to the gospel? WIC? Head Start? Just curious.
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Runtu wrote:
bcspace wrote:I am no Republican. But it is accurate to say I am an anti Democrat. Obamacare is contrary to the Gospel of Jesus Christ as it is Socialism and therefore innately coercive.


Do you think Medicare is also contrary to the gospel? WIC? Head Start? Just curious.


If he's like a John Bircher member I once knew, the answer to all three is a resounding YES.
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DarkHelmet wrote:If he's like a John Bircher member I once knew, the answer to all three is a resounding YES.


The only time I have ever gone out of my way to sign up for government welfare was when I was in grad school and we had two small children. It never occurred to me to go on government welfare, even though we would easily have qualified, and I never would have asked for assistance from the church. But the professor I was a TA for suggested WIC, which I had not heard of (he was just starting his career and qualified for it too). So we signed up, and WIC provided food for my children when we needed some assistance. I don't feel bad at all about taking advantage of that program. I think it's a good program that provides something important.

I guess I could say it restricted my agency because we could only use the vouchers for food items (milk, juice, cereal, formula) that were on the approved list.
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While I agree with bc's crusade to get intelligent people out of the church, I wonder when he's going to feel the need to repent for his gross apostasy regarding the flood?
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Runtu wrote:
DarkHelmet wrote:If he's like a John Bircher member I once knew, the answer to all three is a resounding YES.


The only time I have ever gone out of my way to sign up for government welfare was when I was in grad school and we had two small children. It never occurred to me to go on government welfare, even though we would easily have qualified, and I never would have asked for assistance from the church. But the professor I was a TA for suggested WIC, which I had not heard of (he was just starting his career and qualified for it too). So we signed up, and WIC provided food for my children when we needed some assistance. I don't feel bad at all about taking advantage of that program. I think it's a good program that provides something important.

I guess I could say it restricted my agency because we could only use the vouchers for food items (milk, juice, cereal, formula) that were on the approved list.

We used WIC for a while, too. I completely support this program. The other thing I liked about WIC was that they also conducted nutrition classes. Frankly, my family ate a lot better on WIC than they do now. LOL

It seriously saved our lives when we were both in school and the girls were little. The free formula alone was priceless!
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I see nothing wrong with welfare programs being used for the purpose they were actually designed to be used for. When we are working, we pay into the system so that if we are laid off from work, we have a temporary means to provide for our families until we can get another job.
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liz3564 wrote:
We used WIC for a while, too. I completely support this program. The other thing I liked about WIC was that they also conducted nutrition classes. Frankly, my family ate a lot better on WIC than they do now. LOL

It seriously saved our lives when we were both in school and the girls were little. The free formula alone was priceless!


We were also on WIC early in our marriage. We were married in our early 20s. I know of many young Mormon families on WIC. In fact, with so many really young people starting families while still in school, or very early in their careers, it would surprise me if the church didn't have a large percentage of members using WIC and other government programs.
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liz3564 wrote:I see nothing wrong with welfare programs being used for the purpose they were actually designed to be used for. When we are working, we pay into the system so that if we are laid off from work, we have a temporary means to provide for our families until we can get another job.


According to BC Space, Droopy, and ldsfaqs, you are a godless communist.
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