Stk Pres Romney's Encounter With Feminist Mormon

[_mms]

She wants to go through the temple....he wants her to leave the Church.

http://www.salon.com/2012/01/06/romney_ ... _feminist/

[_DarkHelmet]

It sounds like that incident was from 1993. The church was cracking down on intellectuals at that time. Maybe Romney got caught up in all that. His attitudes are more common among LDS men than her Bishop's seem to be. We all know that the typical Mormon leader frowns on feminism.

[_lostindc]

It sounds like that incident was from 1993. The church was cracking down on intellectuals at that time. Maybe Romney got caught up in all that. His attitudes are more common among LDS men than her Bishop's seem to be. We all know that the typical Mormon leader frowns on feminism.

She did not heed his counsel. It is all on her. If she was righteous she would have been married and at home sewing a cover for her mouth so her ideas would no longer be felt. This is why all woman need a good man to direct them.

[_MsJack]

She wants to go through the temple....he wants her to leave the Church.

Not particularly relevant, but interesting: the woman he told off was Eliza Dushku's mother.

[_MsJack]

The full story from the source article:

One woman who had been active in the Exponent II organization was Judy Dushku, a longtime scholar of global politics at Suffolk University in Boston. At one point while Romney was stake president, Dushku wanted to visit the temple outside Washington to take out endowments, a sacred rite that commits Mormons to a lifetime of faithfulness to the church. She had never entered a temple before and was thrilled at the chance to affirm her dedication to a faith she’d grown up with and grown to love. Earlier in her life, temples had been off limits to Mormons who, like Dushku, were married to non-Mormons. Now that rule had changed, and she was eager to go. But first she needed permission from her bishop and stake president.

After what she described as a “lovely interview” with her bishop and after speaking with one of Romney’s counselors, she went to see Romney. She wasn’t sure what to expect. Despite Romney’s willingness to allow some changes in 1993, he and Dushku had clashed over the church’s treatment of women. “He says something like ‘I suspect, if you’ve gotten through both of the interviews, there’s nothing I can do to keep you from going to the temple,’ ” Dushku recalled. “I said, ‘Well, why would you want to keep me from going to the temple?’ ” Romney’s answer, Dushku said, was biting. “He said, ‘Well, Judy, I just don’t understand why you stay in the church.’ ” She asked him whether he wanted her to really answer that question. “And he said, ‘No, actually. I don’t understand it, but I also don’t care. I don’t care why you do. But I can tell you one thing: you’re not my kind of Mormon.’ ” With that, Dushku said, he dismissively signed her recommendation to visit the temple and let her go. Dushku was deeply hurt. Though she and Romney had had their differences, he was still her spiritual leader. She had hoped he would be excited at her yearning to visit the temple. “I’m coming to you as a member of the church, essentially expecting you to say, ‘I’m happy for you,’ ” Dushku said. Instead, “I just felt kicked in the stomach.”

I've never heard that the temple used to be off-limits for Mormons married to non-members.

Does anyone know anything else about that? Was it just women married to non-members who weren't allowed, or were men married to non-members disqualified as well?

[_Yoda]

I've never heard that the temple used to be off-limits for Mormons married to non-members.

Does anyone know anything else about that? Was it just women married to non-members who weren't allowed, or were men married to non-members disqualified as well?

There are two moments in adulthood when you typically take out your endowments...when you go on a mission and/or when you get married. If you don't do either, then typically, you couldn't go. However, several years ago, they made the exception that if a single woman past typical mission age and/or a woman married to a non-member could also take out her own endowments as long as she went through the worthiness interview.

[_Willy Law]

I'll have to check when I get home, but I don't think that it is accurate to say that members married to non members could not go to the temple. I think it was only women married to non members. I believe men married to non Mormon women were fine. The reason being that a woman would never be able to deny her husband if he asked her for her new name.
I'll get the reference for you later just to make sure I have my facts straight.

[_MsJack]

There are two moments in adulthood when you typically take out your endowments...when you go on a mission and/or when you get married. If you don't do either, then typically, you couldn't go. However, several years ago, they made the exception that if a single woman past typical mission age and/or a woman married to a non-member could also take out her own endowments as long as she went through the worthiness interview.

Right. So effectively, it was only women married to non-members who were barred from temples. I assume that if a man had served a mission while single, then come home and married a non-member, he'd still be able to attend. (Which is what my husband did.)

I knew that single women who hadn't gone on missions used to be unable to do the endowment, but I hadn't known that women married to non-members were excluded as well.

[_Yoda]

I knew that single women who hadn't gone on missions used to be unable to do the endowment, but I hadn't known that women married to non-members were excluded as well.

Well, it was really more of just a matter of you only going through unless you were either going on a mission, or preparing to be sealed.

[_ldsfaqs]

I would have likely said the same thing..... If someone falsely like anti-mormons and feminists think the Church "treats women badly", which is what they she was claiming to Romney and clearly degrading the Church, then they likely shouldn't be a member of the Church.

Why would anyone with a brain want to be a part of something they think is "bad"???