Is Lehi the father of the Polynesians?

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Re: Is Lehi the father of the Polynesians?

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Hello Simon Southerton,

I have a question for you here:
Have Haplogroups A, C, or D been found among any of the Polynesian People?
Thanks!
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Re: Is Lehi the father of the Polynesians?

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Themis wrote:
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However, the Moroni claim is quite a bold claim and certainly if Joseph Smith or sidney wrote the book, it was a bold claim to make. And one that would be certain to fail. But it hasn't.


Are you suggesting one can't get good feelings reading or praying about a fictitious book?



It is a bold claim for a writer to make. If Joseph Smith wrote the book or if Sidney wrote the book, they are more or less encouraging people to pray to god for a spiritual confirmation for a work of fiction that they wrote. Not only would this be risky but they would be mocking god. I don't think that neither had such an inclination without assuming an eternal rotting in hell, which would have been the protestant inclination for such a sin.
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Re: Is Lehi the father of the Polynesians?

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Brackite wrote:
I am still waiting for the LDS Apologist Bcspace to try to answer this Post of mine.
If Lehi and his family were not alone when they arrived in the Americas (Specifically MesoAmerica), then why does the Book of Mormon Prophet Jacob describes his people as being "a lonesome and a solemn people" towards the end of his life???


As the early Mormon saints were lonesome people among the gentiles? Or as the early saints at the time of Paul were a lonesome group among the pagans?
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Themis wrote:
That does not change that it is still an interpretation of certain expereinces, one you have learned from Christianity, and one you were taught by LDS in regards to the Book of Mormon. You have yet in any thread to explain why your interpretation is likely to be accurate.


Simon more or less implied that it is a Mormon invention for control and for implanting a thought feeling into the minds of converts.
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why me wrote:
Themis wrote:
That does not change that it is still an interpretation of certain expereinces, one you have learned from Christianity, and one you were taught by LDS in regards to the Book of Mormon. You have yet in any thread to explain why your interpretation is likely to be accurate.


Simon more or less implied that it is a Mormon invention for control and for implanting a thought feeling into the minds of converts.

Just W.T.F. is a thought feeling? and how does one perform implanting this into a human mind?

You are just pulling crazy ideas out of your ass now.
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why me wrote:
Brackite wrote:
I am still waiting for the LDS Apologist Bcspace to try to answer this Post of mine.
If Lehi and his family were not alone when they arrived in the Americas (Specifically MesoAmerica), then why does the Book of Mormon Prophet Jacob describes his people as being "a lonesome and a solemn people" towards the end of his life???


As the early Mormon saints were lonesome people among the gentiles? Or as the early saints at the time of Paul were a lonesome group among the pagans?

Are you lonesome? ....tonight?
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Re: Is Lehi the father of the Polynesians?

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Polygamy-Porter wrote:
why me wrote:
Simon more or less implied that it is a Mormon invention for control and for implanting a thought feeling into the minds of converts.

Just W.T.F. is a thought feeling? and how does one perform implanting this into a human mind?

You are just pulling crazy ideas out of your ass now.


LOL I to would like to know. whyme this is what Simon said in a earlier post to you

I no longer believe that God uses emotions to communicate truth with us or to reveal his only true church. If God does use emotions, why is he telling people who attend other churches that their church is true?


If you would read peoples posts you would realize that he did not say it was a Mormon invention.
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Re: Is Lehi the father of the Polynesians?

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Brackite wrote:Hello Simon

I have a question for you here:
Have Haplogroups A, C, or D been found among any of the Polynesian People?
Thanks!


I think one or two individuals (out of 6 or 7 hundred) may have had a C or D lineage. But these lineages are found in eastern Asia and the authors of the studies think it is most likely they came into the Pacific from Taiwan.
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I think he might have been referring to HeartSale TM or whatever they call Bonneville's trademarked technique of inducing warm fuzzies. But what do I know?
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why me wrote:
Brackite wrote:
I am still waiting for the LDS Apologist Bcspace to try to answer this Post of mine.
If Lehi and his family were not alone when they arrived in the Americas (Specifically MesoAmerica), then why does the Book of Mormon Prophet Jacob describes his people as being "a lonesome and a solemn people" towards the end of his life???


As the early Mormon saints were lonesome people among the gentiles? Or as the early saints at the time of Paul were a lonesome group among the pagans?


The early saints would have been less lonesome if they hadn't murdered 140 "gentiles."
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