OMG, Time Flies! I've been a secret apostate for years now!

[_just me]

Oh, I know.....seriously, if I had a nickle for every post-Mormon who goes pagan.........

Laughing.so.hard.

[_why me]

Maybe she should weight. Maybe she is board with church.

As soon as I posted my post, I saw my mistake and corrected it. I didn't realize that you were marshall Matt Dillion. Fast on the draw.

[_zeezrom]

by the way Just Me, I agree that it's hard. It also seems the challenges will never end.

Have you ever seen the show Cake Boss? The owners and employees of this cake business are all in a very close family. They argue and bicker and scream at each other sometimes but they love and support each other. Family is everything to them. When I watch it, I'm sad to think that my family isn't like that. There is too much "hoping for conversion" that gets in the way. Too much silence. Too much being said while we aren't in each other's faces. We think we are so different from each other now but we really aren't. I know. It feels different because we don't wear garments like you do. But dad, that really isn't who you are. Can't we just look at who we are?

[_why me]

Why me, you are such a twit. Just me is being soooo honest in this thread. You are using that to attack her for your own personal and inexplicable reasons.

Grow up.

by the way it's "right", not "write".

I saw just me's post a mile away. I knew why she was silent during class time and posting her comments here. She needed people to support her postmo belief system. Most people who come here are either out of church or are serious about exiting and just need a little push by the antimormon missionaries on this board. Ray read it right too. It is just the nature of the board. And nothing wrong with that. But, really, I am glad that just me finally came out of the closet or did she? Describing oneself as a active Mormon who is nonbelieving is a little confusing.

[_Darth J]

Maybe she should weight. Maybe she is board with church.

As soon as I posted my post, I saw my mistake and corrected it. I didn't realize that you were marshall Matt Dillion. Fast on the draw.

So what you're saying is that when you realize your thinking was in error and you change it, I shouldn't sit here and judge you.

Huh.

Describing oneself as a active Mormon who is nonbelieving is a little confusing.

It totally befuddles me! I just can't understand it!

[_just me]

by the way Just Me, I agree that it's hard. It also seems the challenges will never end.

Have you ever seen the show Cake Boss? The owners and employees of this cake business are all in a very close family. They argue and bicker and scream at each other sometimes but they love and support each other. Family is everything to them. When I watch it, I'm sad to think that my family isn't like that. There is too much "hoping for conversion" that gets in the way. Too much silence. Too much being said while we aren't in each other's faces. We think we are so different from each other now but we really aren't. I know. It feels different because we don't wear garments like you do. But dad, that really isn't who you are. Can't we just look at who we are?

Awww, zee. I can really relate to how you feel. The silence is deafening. Looking at who we really are is just too scary, man. My mom has actually said to me that she doesn't know how to talk to or relate to non-members (or non-believers). There seems to be a comfort in the belief (or understanding) that the person you are talking to agrees with everything you believe.

But it does keep us from truly seeing each other. I am at a point in my life where I need to be seen for who I am...not for what others project onto me or wish me to be.

[_just me]

Describing oneself as a active Mormon who is nonbelieving is a little confusing.

It totally befuddles me! I just can't understand it!

Indeed.

[_LDSToronto]

bb,

Wherever you land, you are tops in my books. I know that you have taken a completely selfless journey, caring more for the needs of your family than your own. You are a completely artless human being, I wish I had half your moral character and one-quarter your courage.

I'm almost at the finish line; just squint, that's me cheering you on.

Yours,
H.


Paste this in a book, read it often:

Have you gazed on naked grandeur
where there’s nothing else to gaze on,
Set pieces and drop-curtain scenes galore,
Have you strung your soul to silence?
Then for God’s sake go and do it;
Hear the challenge, learn the lesson, pay the cost.
Then listen to the Wild — it’s calling you.
Have you suffered, starved and triumphed,
groveled down, yet grasped at glory,
Grown bigger in the bigness of the whole?
The simple things, the true things, the silent men who do things
Then listen to the Wild — it’s calling you.
Let us probe the silent places, let us seek what luck betide us;
Let us journey to a lonely land I know.
There’s a whisper on the night-wind,
there’s a star agleam to guide us,
And the Wild is calling, calling. . .let us go.
- Robert Service

[_Yoda]

Being non believing and active isn't anymore confusing than being believing and inactive.

Why me, you are such a twit. Just me is being soooo honest in this thread. You are using that to attack her for your own personal and inexplicable reasons.

Grow up.

by the way it's "right", not "write".

I saw just me's post a mile away. I knew why she was silent during class time and posting her comments here. She needed people to support her postmo belief system. Most people who come here are either out of church or are serious about exiting and just need a little push by the antimormon missionaries on this board. Ray read it right too. It is just the nature of the board. And nothing wrong with that. But, really, I am glad that just me finally came out of the closet or did she? Describing oneself as a active Mormon who is nonbelieving is a little confusing.

[_Fence Sitter]

by the way Just Me, I agree that it's hard. It also seems the challenges will never end.

Have you ever seen the show Cake Boss? The owners and employees of this cake business are all in a very close family. They argue and bicker and scream at each other sometimes but they love and support each other. Family is everything to them. When I watch it, I'm sad to think that my family isn't like that. There is too much "hoping for conversion" that gets in the way. Too much silence. Too much being said while we aren't in each other's faces. We think we are so different from each other now but we really aren't. I know. It feels different because we don't wear garments like you do. But dad, that really isn't who you are. Can't we just look at who we are?

I am sorry to hear this Zee. It does not have to be this way. I guess I am one of the lucky ones. My family consistently lets me know how much they love me and how important I am to them. I think the Church has had a lot to do with the unity we have as a family and how my family treats me.