Reconciling Genesis and Evolution

[_Stormy Waters]

Plus, natural selection is also driven by environmental/geological factors which science also cannot keep track of comprehensively enough for similar reasons. There is no way to scientifically confirm or deny God's hand in evolution and therefore as per the truism I stated, Evolution cannot preclude the existence of God or His hand in it.

So evolution through supernatural selection.
With God himself guiding this process it takes about 2.8 billion years from the first single celled organism to multi-celluar organisms. Nearly 3/4 of the total time is spent on single celled organisms. If God had his hand in the process you would imagine that things would have progressed much quicker. It seems an odd coincidence that God opted to use a process where his influence is completely invisible.

[_bcspace]

Doesn't follow. God can't create a rock so heavy He can't lift it so omnipotent simply means being able to everything that is possible to do at most. Obviously, God is omnipotent relative to man.

So your argument is that evolution is the best God can do?

Not necessarily. Although it stands to reason that whatever God does is the best He can do. But it IS a fatal flaw in your argument.

God appears very limited if he has to resign himself to a process that takes 4 billion years.

Why is this a problem?

This seems an unlikely scenario for a God that can part the red sea, heal the sick, turn water into wine, and walk on water.

Perhaps those are reserved for the blessing of the faithful or warnings for the unfaithful. But it's not up to me to find answers for what is. Why does God have us going through an inefficient sexual process to reproduce and why don't we just appear on earth as adults and not have to go through the stage of childhood?

So evolution through supernatural selection.

With the right initial conditions, I don't think it would take more than a few nudges imho.

With God himself guiding this process it takes about 2.8 billion years from the first single celled organism to multi-celluar organisms. Nearly 3/4 of the total time is spent on single celled organisms. If God had his hand in the process you would imagine that things would have progressed much quicker.

Why would He not be satisfied with natural process? Perhaps He's bound to them and knowing them far better than we do, can use them.

It seems an odd coincidence that God opted to use a process where his influence is completely invisible.

Any way you go, Creationism or Evolution, it's invisible. But the effects are not.

[_Morley]

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Why would He not be satisfied with natural process? Perhaps He's bound to them and knowing them far better than we do, can use them.
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My underline.


Omnipotence is not a relative term. Omnipotence is an absolute.

[_bcspace]

Omnipotence is not a relative term. Omnipotence is an absolute.

Only within bounds. Such power may however look boundless compared to those of lesser power and understanding.

[_Morley]

Omnipotence is not a relative term. Omnipotence is an absolute.

Only within bounds. Such power may however look boundless compared to those of lesser power and understanding.

Where are you getting that definition?

[_bcspace]

Only within bounds. Such power may however look boundless compared to those of lesser power and understanding.

Where are you getting that definition?

From logic. Did not, for example the Aztecs first look upon Cortes and his men as Gods? Also, can God create a rock so heavy He can't lift it?

[_Morley]

Where are you getting that definition?

From logic. Did not, for example the Aztecs first look upon Cortes and his men as Gods? Also, can God create a rock so heavy He can't lift it?

From your logic?

[_moksha]

The causation of all, that lead up to the creation of the first organic pools on our planet, is open to speculation. What more justification for adding in a back story is needed? The unseen hand (or flesh, bone and ectoplasmic fluid) adds a satisfactory speculation. You nihlists can't touch that.

[_bcspace]

From logic. Did not, for example the Aztecs first look upon Cortes and his men as Gods? Also, can God create a rock so heavy He can't lift it?

From your logic?

From any logic. There is no intrinsic intellectual conflict between religion and science. Draper-Whitism is quite the minority view among both scientists and theists.

[_SteelHead]

While god may be unable to create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it, he is able to produce two western hemisphere Judeo-Christian cultures that no one, himself included, can find an evidence of.

Funny that.