Popular BYU Randy Bott Takes Heat for Comments

[_Madison54]

Because there's no explanation. In my opinion, it was just an ad hoc policy decision Brigham Young made that became conventionalized and ultimately became a de facto doctrine.

I think this is probably what happened. The problem here is that this does not support the LDS church being God's one true church, lead by God. As such, the church cannot bring itself to apologize and admit it made a mistake. Most other religions can since they don't claim to be the one true church. This is the dilemma the church finds itself in. How can it be a mistake and God not fix this mistake when it happened. This is such an important issue, that if God is not involved, then what would he be involved in, or is he not really guiding anyone including the founder. Admitting mistakes brings up all these other issues I don't think the church wants to open up.

It also makes one wonder about all the drama built up and promoted by the church over the 1978 revelation.... seems quite ridiculous if it was just "an ad hoc policy decision Brigham Young made that became conventionalized....".

[Guest]

Because there's no explanation.

Now you are denying what the Church said. The Church did not say there was no explanation nor did the Church state it did not know the reason.

The Church clearly stated it did not know the precise reason why.


Also, there are Official Statements from the Church, the current admin of the Church surely is not suggesting that previous Official First Presidency published statements are mere opinions which all should ignore.

[_maklelan]

Your boyfriend, BC Space.

My boyfriend? And you used the plural, so you can't be talking just about BC.

[_maklelan]

I think this is probably what happened. The problem here is that this does not support the LDS church being God's one true church, lead by God.

It doesn't lend support to the claim, but it doesn't preclude it either.

As such, the church cannot bring itself to apologize and admit it made a mistake. Most other religions can since they don't claim to be the one true church.

Other religions don't claim to be the only true religion? Since when?

This is the dilemma the church finds itself in. How can it be a mistake and God not fix this mistake when it happened. This is such an important issue, that if God is not involved, then what would he be involved in, or is he not really guiding anyone including the founder. Admitting mistakes brings up all these other issues I don't think the church wants to open up.

You're right. It has much more important things to deal with, despite popular opinion on this board.

[_maklelan]

It also makes one wonder about all the drama built up and promoted by the church over the 1978 revelation.... seems quite ridiculous if it was just "an ad hoc policy decision Brigham Young made that became conventionalized....".

Well, the church obviously doesn't see it that way.

[_Jason Bourne]

by the way, in the interest of shameless self-promotion, here is my own blog post on the matter.

I want to say that I very much agree with what you said. I think I noted it in my angry rant earlier on this thread. Bott only regurgitated some of what the LDS Church wants to simply pass off as speculative folklore. Now The Church copes the we don't know why, where, how...but of course it was of God? Come on folks. Really? So yes, the student should go the the Church Office Building with their protests.

[_Buffalo]

Other religions don't claim to be the only true religion? Since when?

Other sects don't claim to be the one true sect.

[_Themis]

I think this is probably what happened. The problem here is that this does not support the LDS church being God's one true church, lead by God.

It doesn't lend support to the claim, but it doesn't preclude it either.

I think it does. If it was a mistake, it is a mistake on a grand scale. It does not lend support to God leading the church if he is allowing such mistakes to go on for so long. The problem is though, that the church teaches it was God who commanded it, which is probably worse, making him out to be the racist.

Other religions don't claim to be the only true religion? Since when?

LOL Nice try, but lets try to be honest in this discussion. You know full well I said true church, not religion. We both know there is a difference. Most other Christian church's do not claim to be the one true church, so making mistakes is not nearly as bad as it would be for the LDS.

You're right. It has much more important things to deal with, despite popular opinion on this board.

Have you really deluded yourself to believe this? I think most can see that this would be extremely important for God, if he really was in charge. It does not do well that it took till 1978. If it was so unimportant one has to wonder why the church made so much noise about the 1978 revelation. :)

[_maklelan]

Other sects don't claim to be the one true sect.

So we're talking about "sects" now instead of religions? And you claim that there are no other sects out there that claim to be the only true versions of their broader denominations?

[_SteelHead]

The whole ban is made moot by allowing ordinances performed by priesthood holders who later had their priesthood revoked to stand, when the revocation was due to their lineage.

Translation: apparently god didn't care.

The ban was a man inspired injunction.