A formal apology...

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Re: A formal apology...

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So, Droopy: you approve(d) of the priesthood ban? You see nothing wrong about it whatsoever?
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Yahoo Bot wrote:I'd like to see the United States apologize for protecting the murderous slave trade, for slavery, for barring blacks from politics and civil rights.


1. Logically and morally bizarre. The United States didn't exist for most the time the Atlantic slave trade was in existence, and no living blacks or whites had anything to do with it.

2. What about the Africans who were at the root of the entire system and provided the slaves to the Western traders?

3. The United States has already apologized for barring blacks from politics and civil rights. Trillions of dollars of apologies, legislation, and court rulings.

4. Even in these days of heavy inflation, Kool-Aid must still be dirt cheap.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:So, Droopy: you approve(d) of the priesthood ban? You see nothing wrong about it whatsoever?


If its true, and came by revelation, then I support whatever it is, as difficult as that may be. I also "support" the doctrine of plural marriage, but I wouldn't want to have anything to do with it on a personal level. Call someone else who can handle it, but not me, please.

I accept animal sacrifice as a part of a specific application of the gospel, but wouldn't want to be involved in it myself. I support Jesus not taking the gospel outside the House of Israel, even though he would have been tagged as an intolerant bigot by modern leftists for not so doing in his lifetime.

I support the burning of the wicked as stubble and the cleansing of the earth by fire at his Second Coming, but wouldn't want anyone I know to be a part of said stubble, and think it tragic that this has to be the case.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

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Re: A formal apology...

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I'm curious how and why you think that essentially blind obedience to offensive teachings is in keeping with an "intellectually and philosophically" serious approach to life. You clearly find this stuff reprehensible, Droopy. Why go along with it? What's in it for you to be so mindlessly obedient?
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If you feel you could sign your name to it, please let me know by pm or here on the board, and I can forward to them.


Most of the items listed are not doctrinal therefore the presentation of the "church’s historical stance" is a lie. In addition, I am not formerly associated with the Church. So I can't sign it, nor can I recommend to anyone formerly associated with the Church and with an ounce of intellectual honestly left sign it.
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This is also further evidence that anti mo exmos can't leave the Church alone. Somehow, they feel persecuted as if they were still members and are trying to surrender to some imagined enemy usually defined as themselves.
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Re: A formal apology...

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Doctor Scratch wrote:I'm curious how and why you think that essentially blind obedience to offensive teachings is in keeping with an "intellectually and philosophically" serious approach to life. You clearly find this stuff reprehensible, Droopy. Why go along with it? What's in it for you to be so mindlessly obedient?



Bye.
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Droopy wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:I'm curious how and why you think that essentially blind obedience to offensive teachings is in keeping with an "intellectually and philosophically" serious approach to life. You clearly find this stuff reprehensible, Droopy. Why go along with it? What's in it for you to be so mindlessly obedient?



Bye.


It's a legitimate question, Droopy. How interesting that you don't have a substantive reply.
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zeezrom wrote:Yahoo Bot makes a comparison to the US government in hopes to... What? Justify the actions of the church?



Do I think that the Nazi party should have admitted Jews and Armenians to top leadership?

Do you think a cult which you find reprehensible, founded by a con artist, should have made it easier to bring blacks into the fold?
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Yahoo Bot wrote:
zeezrom wrote:Yahoo Bot makes a comparison to the US government in hopes to... What? Justify the actions of the church?



Do I think that the Nazi party should have admitted Jews and Armenians to top leadership?

Do you think a cult which you find reprehensible, founded by a con artist, should have made it easier to bring blacks into the fold?


You're comparing the Church to the Nazi party?
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