bcspace wrote: Yet the ban (in place since the time of Adam according to official LDS doctrine) wasn't based at all on anyone's race or lineage or ethnicity.
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I thought that the ban was based on the lineage of Cain. What is the ban based on?
Here, I'll give bcspace his official doctrinal out.
The ban was based on choices that some spirits made in the pre-mortal existence, although we are not entirely sure what those choices were. It just so happens that God made sure that all of the spirits who made that choice or those choices were born on this Earth as Negroes.
Bc, What was he criteria then for applying the ban? If it was not race or lineage, then what was it?
Why were members who received patriarchal blessing whose house was revealed to ha manasseh or ephriam asked to no longer exercise the priesthood when their genealogy traced into black lineages?
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.
Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality. ~Bill Hamblin
1. Treating people differently based either in whole or in part upon their race (or lineage--that was for BCSpace).
Yet the ban (in place since the time of Adam according to official LDS doctrine) wasn't based at all on anyone's race or lineage or ethnicity.
BCSpace, you're obviously changing your tune. That's not what you say in some of your other posts. You've demonstrated a proclivity for linking the ban with "lineage" in the past. You'll see it suggested several times here.
Yet the ban (in place since the time of Adam according to official LDS doctrine) wasn't based at all on anyone's race or lineage or ethnicity. ???
I thought that the ban was based on the lineage of Cain. What is the ban based on?
The basis is founded in the disobedience of some individual who's descendents would go on to follow that disobedience, not because of any inherent trait. The basis for enforcement of the ban was lineage; also not an inherent trait.
BCSpace, you're obviously changing your tune. That's not what you say in many of your other posts. You've demonstrated a proclivity for linking the ban with "lineage" in the past. You'll see it suggested at least one out of five times you mention the word.
Depends on the definition of racism being used. Lineage transcends race which is usually based on a phenotypes/traits. Example: The people in Moses 7 who turned black because the land was "cursed with much heat" were once a different color. One therefore could not identify that race simply by color. So I stand by my words regarding lineage.
bcspace on Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:41 pm wrote:Lineage has always been the primary determinant considering the ban.
bcspace on Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:12 pm wrote:Yet the ban (in place since the time of Adam according to official LDS doctrine) wasn't based at all on anyone's race or lineage or ethnicity.
