Official LDS doctrine: Priesthood Ban Divinely Appointed

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Re: Official LDS doctrine: Priesthood Ban Divinely Appointed

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There are only two possibilities. God. Or God through His prophets. If it were not so, then God would not have had to have been petitioned. So either way, Divinely appointed.
There are many other possibilities.
bcspace wrote:No, only those if current LDS scripture is true.

If.





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bcspace wrote:
No, only those if current LDS scripture is true.


Big if on that BC.
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Dear BCSpace,

Are you really stating that the LDS Priesthood Ban was truly based on Abraham 1:21–27???
Do you really want to go on that route???
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No, only those if current LDS scripture is true.

Big if on that BC.


Sure. That's what faith is all about. Notice that the LDS Church does not teach blind faith.

Are you really stating that the LDS Priesthood Ban was truly based on Abraham 1:21–27???


According to LDS doctrine there has been a ban since the time of Adam. Abraham 1 merely provides a lineage reason.

Do you really want to go on that route???


I accept the Book of Abraham as the word of God.
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Quote:
Are you really stating that the LDS Priesthood Ban was truly based on Abraham 1:21–27???



According to LDS doctrine there has been a ban since the time of Adam. Abraham 1 merely provides a lineage reason.


Quote:
Do you really want to go on that route???


I accept the Book of Abraham as the word of God.




Then how were the Book of Mormon Prophets such as Lehi, Nephi, and Alma able to legitimately hold the Priesthood???

The Following Scriptural Passages are From the New King James Version of the Bible:

Genesis 39:1:

39 Now Joseph had been taken down to Egypt. And Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had taken him down there.

...

Genesis 41:45-52:

45 And Pharaoh called Joseph’s name Zaphnath-Paaneah. And he gave him as a wife Asenath, the daughter of Poti-Pherah priest of On. So Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt.

46 Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh king of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt. 47 Now in the seven plentiful years the ground brought forth abundantly. 48 So he gathered up all the food of the seven years which were in the land of Egypt, and laid up the food in the cities; he laid up in every city the food of the fields which surrounded them. 49 Joseph gathered very much grain, as the sand of the sea, until he stopped counting, for it was immeasurable.

50 And to Joseph were born two sons before the years of famine came, whom Asenath, the daughter of Poti-Pherah priest of On, bore to him. 51 Joseph called the name of the firstborn Manasseh:[a] “For God has made me forget all my toil and all my father’s house.” 52 And the name of the second he called Ephraim: “For God has caused me to be fruitful in the land of my affliction.”

[b]Footnotes:


Genesis 41:51 Literally Making Forgetful
Genesis 41:52 Literally Fruitfulness




The Following Scriptural Passage is From the Book of Mormon:

Alma 10:1-3:

[1] Now these are the words which Amulek preached unto the people who were in the land of Ammonihah, saying:

[2] I am Amulek; I am the son of Giddonah, who was the son of Ishmael, who was a descendant of Aminadi; and it was the same Aminadi who interpreted the writing which was upon the wall of the temple, which was written by the finger of God.

[3] And Aminadi was a descendant of Nephi, who was the son of Lehi, who came out of the land of Jerusalem, who was a descendant of Manasseh, who was the son of Joseph who was sold into Egypt by the hands of his brethren.




It is stated that Joseph Smith is of the tribe of Ephraim.

How was Joseph Smith able to legitimately hold the Priesthood???

Tribe of Ephraim Pre-1978:
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Then how were the Book of Mormon Prophets such as Lehi, Nephi, and Alma able to legitimately hold the Priesthood???


I would speculate (since you are speculating), it's because they can still trace their lineage to Shem via Abraham to whom great blessings regarding his posterity were promised.
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bcspace wrote:
Then how were the Book of Mormon Prophets such as Lehi, Nephi, and Alma able to legitimately hold the Priesthood???


I would speculate (since you are speculating), it's because they can still trace their lineage to Shem via Abraham to whom great blessings regarding his posterity were promised.


So if a black person (negro) before 1978 had any white ancestors, they could have the priesthood, right?
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So if a black person (negro) before 1978 had any white ancestors, they could have the priesthood, right?


Doesn't seem to fit the criteria.
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There are many other possibilities.


No, you see, actually, there aren't.

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bcspace wrote:
So if a black person (negro) before 1978 had any white ancestors, they could have the priesthood, right?


Doesn't seem to fit the criteria.


That doesn't seem fair. Lehi and Nephi had negro blood, but apparently held the priesthood. Why the double standard?
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