Brace yourself, bcspace, for 4 more Obama years

[_Droopy]

Picture: totally not torture at Abu Ghraib.

1. Where was this picture taken (and how do you know it was taken there?), who is the man in the picture, how were the wounds inflicted, by whom, and within what context.

2. Why was the man in the photo incarcerated at Abu Ghrab by the U.S. military (what did he do go get himself there, in other words?)

[_Droopy]

He's definitely center right.

Then it should be a simple matter to point out some specific policies and inititatives that would demonstrate the truth of such a claim.[/quote]



And this was back in 2008, when he was playing it more liberal to get elected.

Specific policies? His very conservative, market approach to healthcare reform. His foreign policy and the way he continued to prosecute the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. His pro-business initiatives. Just because he occasionally throws a bone to average Americans doesn't make him a communist.[/quote]


Keep lying for The Cause, Bluffalo. Its near slapstick levels already.

How I do love your Bugs Bunny/Roadrunner Hour political philosophy. No one with an intellectual capacity above that of a lily pad could take it seriously, but it does make for some very needful comic relief around here.

[Guest]

Then it should be a simple matter to point out some specific policies and inititatives that would demonstrate the truth of such a claim.

And this was back in 2008, when he was playing it more liberal to get elected.

Specific policies? His very conservative, market approach to healthcare reform. His foreign policy and the way he continued to prosecute the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. His pro-business initiatives. Just because he occasionally throws a bone to average Americans doesn't make him a communist.

Keep lying for The Cause, Bluffalo. Its at near slapstick levels already.

How I do love your Bugs Bunny/Roadrunner Hour political philosophy. No one with an intellectual capacity above that of a lily pad could take it seriously, but it does make for some very needful comic relief around here.

Note: the bar is so high for Bluffalo for what constitutes being on the Left that Lenin himself couldn't pass muster.

[_Buffalo]

Note: the bar is so high for Bluffalo for what constitutes being on the Left that Lenin himself couldn't pass muster.

The bar is so high for Droopy (no need to change your moniker for comic effect - it works well as is) for what constitutes being on the right that Hitler himself couldn't pass muster.

[_Droopy]

Note: the bar is so high for Bluffalo for what constitutes being on the Left that Lenin himself couldn't pass muster.

The bar is so high for Droopy (no need to change your moniker for comic effect - it works well as is) for what constitutes being on the right that Hitler himself couldn't pass muster.

Except that Hitler wasn't on the Right, unless the Right is just defined as that which is not on "the Left" as defined within a specific ideological frame of reference, or opposed to a particular form the Left has taken within a particular social/ideological milieu, in which case all the close similarities between Nazism and internationalist socialism are not ideological family resemblance but mere accident, and differences are the only measure of importance. By this definition, classical liberalism, being unalterably opposed to both Nazism and socialism, both being collectivist, totalitarian ideologies that oppose individual liberty, free market economic relations, liberal democratic political institutions, and the Judeo-Christian social/moral tradition, cannot be on either the Left or Right, which means that I, William Buckely, Clarence Thomas, Robert Bork, Mark Steyn, Rush Limbaugh, R. Emmet Tyrell Jr. etc., are not on either the Right or Left, but lie in some strange netherworld off with Locke, Adams, Madison, Washington etc.

As I've long maintained, things like National Socialism and Marxian revolutionary socialism do not lie on opposite poles along a continuum, but as branches upon a family tree.

[_Morley]

Except that Hitler wasn't on the Right....

Godwin's law.

[_Droopy]

Except that Hitler wasn't on the Right....

Godwin's law.

Huh? Tell that to Sir Bluffalot, who brought up, yet again, the the old hoary Nazi/socialism dichotomy. I was just correcting him (yet again).

All discussions of Hitler and Nazism aren't instances of Godwin's Law. Stop your knee jerking and enter the intellectual fray here, if you wish.

[_Morley]

Godwin's law.

Huh? Tell that to Sir Bluffalot, who brought up, yet again, the the old hoary Nazi/socialism dichotomy. I was just correcting him (yet again).

All discussions of Hitler and Nazism aren't instances of Godwin's Law. Stop your knee jerking and enter the intellectual fray here, if you wish.

You're so right (pun intended). I should have read further up in the thread.