Mormonism 101
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Just to combine my thoughts of why me from a couple of current threads: why me is an old steer chewing his cud, over and over again.
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"Stop being such a damned coward and use your real name to own your position."
"That's what he gets for posting in his own name."
2 different threads same day 2 hours apart Yohoo Bat 12/1/2015
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Tator wrote:Just to combine my thoughts of why me from a couple of current threads: why me is an old steer chewing his cud, over and over again.
that is one metaphor. the other is that he is just another messed up Mormon without any capacity to accept facts or reality.
again. i have said this here before. he is an ideal Mormon. ideal in his rationalizations. he is exactly what the church creates and rewards. he is exactly what the newsroom and general conference is targeting. they don't want people to ask why, they expect their audience to subscribe and be loyal.
"Rocks don't speak for themselves" is an unfortunate phrase to use in defense of a book produced by a rock actually 'speaking' for itself... (I have a Question, 5.15.15)
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Tator wrote:Just to combine my thoughts of why me from a couple of current threads: why me is an old steer chewing his cud, over and over again.
Spoken like a true tator head.

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Kittens_and_Jesus wrote:You have been proven wrong on this one. Numerous posters have shown you where it is taught in the manuals. Own up to it.
Where does it say that we will have are own planets? I only see divine nature and living with heavenly father. I see no other planets. Critics claim that Mormons teach that they will be gods of their own planet if they live faithfully. I see no such thing in the scriptures or in the manuals.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world.
Joseph Smith
We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
Joseph Smith
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We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
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why me wrote:Kittens_and_Jesus wrote:You have been proven wrong on this one. Numerous posters have shown you where it is taught in the manuals. Own up to it.
Where does it say that we will have are own planets? I only see divine nature and living with heavenly father. I see no other planets. Critics claim that Mormons teach that they will be gods of their own planet if they live faithfully. I see no such thing in the scriptures or in the manuals.
So you now accept LDS believe they can become Gods and wish to move the conversation to wether that implies that, as Gods, we will be able to create planets as God has done with this one. Got it.
I think if LDS believe they can become Gods with all the power etc of the current God (see chapter 47 Gospel Principles) then it is implicit that LDS believe they will be able to do what God has done, for example - create planets.
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why me wrote:Kittens_and_Jesus wrote:You have been proven wrong on this one. Numerous posters have shown you where it is taught in the manuals. Own up to it.
Where does it say that we will have are own planets? I only see divine nature and living with heavenly father. I see no other planets. Critics claim that Mormons teach that they will be gods of their own planet if they live faithfully. I see no such thing in the scriptures or in the manuals.
It says the exalted will have spirit children that will have the same relationship with the exalted parents as we have with God. Don't you think those spirit children will want you to use your godly powers to make a planet for them to be born on so that they too can become exalted? Are you really so obtuse that we have to hold your hand and walk you through your own church's theology?
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http://www.LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?l ... 82620aRCRD
There it is. Official doctrine. Mormons teach and believe that they will get their own planets.
The Celestial Kingdom
This is the place where our Father in Heaven and Jesus live. It is a place where people will be happy, and it will be more beautiful than we can imagine. The people who will live in this kingdom will love our Father in Heaven and Jesus and will choose to obey Them. They must have repented of all their sins and must have accepted Jesus as their Savior. They must have been baptized and received the gift of the Holy Ghost. They must have a testimony from the Holy Ghost that Jesus is the Savior.
To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation* or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done. People who are not married in the temple may live in other parts of the celestial kingdom, but they will not be exalted.
There it is. Official doctrine. Mormons teach and believe that they will get their own planets.
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The church is outright lying in their Mormonism 101 FAQ. Check it out:
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-101#C14
http://www.LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?l ... 82620aRCRD
From “Chapter 36: Eternal Life,” Gospel Fundamentals
Lying for the Lord is alive and well in the LDS Church.
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-101#C14
Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”?
No. This idea is not taught in Latter-day Saint scripture, nor is it a doctrine of the Church. This misunderstanding stems from speculative comments unreflective of scriptural doctrine. Mormons believe that we are all sons and daughters of God and that all of us have the potential to grow during and after this life to become like our Heavenly Father (see Romans 8:16-17). The Church does not and has never purported to fully understand the specifics of Christ’s statement that “in my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14:2).
http://www.LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?l ... 82620aRCRD
From “Chapter 36: Eternal Life,” Gospel Fundamentals
The Celestial Kingdom
This is the place where our Father in Heaven and Jesus live. It is a place where people will be happy, and it will be more beautiful than we can imagine. The people who will live in this kingdom will love our Father in Heaven and Jesus and will choose to obey Them. They must have repented of all their sins and must have accepted Jesus as their Savior. They must have been baptized and received the gift of the Holy Ghost. They must have a testimony from the Holy Ghost that Jesus is the Savior.
To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation* or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done. People who are not married in the temple may live in other parts of the celestial kingdom, but they will not be exalted.
Lying for the Lord is alive and well in the LDS Church.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Buffalo wrote:Lying for the Lord is alive and well in the LDS Church.
Do you expect them to give this type of information to everyone with an Internet connection? You have to pay tithing for years and work your way up the ladder before you are spiritually prepared for this knowledge. You can't just give it out to the unwashed masses.
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Buffalo wrote:http://www.LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?locale=0&sourceId=12a3cb7a29c20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=e1fa5f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRDThe Celestial Kingdom
This is the place where our Father in Heaven and Jesus live. It is a place where people will be happy, and it will be more beautiful than we can imagine. The people who will live in this kingdom will love our Father in Heaven and Jesus and will choose to obey Them. They must have repented of all their sins and must have accepted Jesus as their Savior. They must have been baptized and received the gift of the Holy Ghost. They must have a testimony from the Holy Ghost that Jesus is the Savior.
To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation* or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done. People who are not married in the temple may live in other parts of the celestial kingdom, but they will not be exalted.
There it is. Official doctrine. Mormons teach and believe that they will get their own planets.
Not necessarily. Putting on my apologist hat for a minute, the quote from LDS.org says "They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on." The question on Mormonism 101 was "Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”" to which the answer on the website is "no". The anti-mormon might think they are clever by suggesting there is a contradiction here, but those who actually study the gospel know that there is no contradiction. There can be no contradiction, because the gospel is true. The problem is the anti-mormon confuses the word "Earth" with the word "worlds". The question was about Mormons getting their own planets. Mormons don't believe that, but they do believe they will be able to create worlds for their spirit children to live on. This is an important distinction. The world will be for their children, not for them. And world does not necessarily mean a planet. After all, we have lots of worlds that aren't planets: SeaWorld, Disney World, World of Warcraft, World Health Organization, The World Series, etc. None of these worlds are actual planets. So you see, we just don't know what kind of world we will be making, and we recommend not speculating on this subject any further.
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