Seriously? Dark skin was a metaphor?

[_ldsfaqs]

Why would one group be more modern and the other more primitive when they came from the same family? And why would the "modern" group be lighter skinned than the "primitive" group.

You ever watch the Book of Mormon Movie?
I really liked how they showed the 'changed'. That's likely exactly how it happened.
Didn't they "look" darker to you???

This was clearly a spiritual and "modernity" change in look and behavior.

Further, a literal skin color change in some degree would have occurred because the Lamanites likely mixed more with natives than the Nephites did.

I do agree that the Book of Mormon uses skin color to distinguish between the spiritual and non-spiritual people. The lighter the skin, the more spiritual the person is. The darker the skin, the more wicked. For some reason apologists don't think it's racist.

It's not racist because it's in almost every case referring to "spirituality" and "countenance", not "race".
Again, especially given the fact that there were WHITE Lamanites while they were still "black".

Everyone should watch this video series..... Minus the weird music, it shows clearly how "white" and "black", light and dark, etc. are used in the Bible and Book of Mormon to describe "spirituality", not "skin color".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQFev9IX-70

[_Buffalo]

You ever watch the Book of Mormon Movie?
I really liked how they showed the 'changed'. That's likely exactly how it happened.
Didn't they "look" darker to you???

LOL @ using the Book of Mormon Movie as a source.

[_ldsfaqs]

What a load of crap. What part of "white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome" do you fail to understand? This is how the Book of Mormon was translated by Joseph Smith... exactly. Just because the LDS church has attempted to change the supposed word of God doesn't make it go away. Ignorance is bliss, and it's sad that most LDS are ignorant of this fact.

http://mormoncurtain.com/topic_whiteanddelightsome.html

What part of LYING about others do you not understand???

1. The "white" word was a "printing error" of the previous edition, as well as other editions.
Joseph Smith himself corrected this error in the edition AFTER the first edition, but then it crept in and out of editions over the years.

The original translation WAS always meant to say "pure".

2. For your argument to hold any weight the Church should have gotten rid of ALL "white" statements, yet somehow they LEFT several other instances of "white" in the Book of Mormon. Boy.... They sure are stupid trying to "cover-up" the "white" references when they LEFT ALL OTHERS and only changed ONE!!!

You should learn to stop bearing false witness!

[_DarkHelmet]

You ever watch the Book of Mormon Movie?
I really liked how they showed the 'changed'. That's likely exactly how it happened.
Didn't they "look" darker to you???

LOL @ using the Book of Mormon Movie as a source.

Hey, if we can use the Book of Mormon movie as a source, it opens up a goldmine for the critics.

[_ldsfaqs]

Do you know what makes me sick?

It is that even though I left the Cult of Mormonism 11 years ago, I am defending Mormonism at this point. Why? Because the Mormon Cult is changing doctrine yet - again.

So here I am defending the Mormonism that I knew - was converted to - and grew up with. What I was converted to in Mormonism would now have junior ass apologists like bcspace and ldsfaqs telling me that I was wrong. The missionaries that were appointed in 1986 by YOUR prophets - who converted me - were liars. They didn't know their doctrine.

Mormonism that within the last few weeks has changes so dramatically that if I were Mormon today, I would most definitely stand up and say NO. Absolutely NOT.

So really in the end, screw Mormonism. It shows that it isn't led by a true prophet. It isn't led by men in the past who communed with God. It is nothing more than an corporate institution run by a bunch of geriatric old men that are so out of touch with reality - it isn't even funny.

f*** Mormonism. It is a cult 100% through and through.

You being mentally IGNORANT of all aspects of Mormonism, both the literal skin color AND the spiritual skin color, doesn't make Mormonism a "cult", it makes YOU the cult..... a cult of ignorance and bigotry.

What you don't understand is that you never actually knew Mormonism, and you forgot much of what you once did know. Now you lie and misrepresent Mormonism as if IT was YOUR perverted and ignorant view of it.

Sorry, Mormonism never was YOUR view of it..... It's always been separate from your stupidity!

[_ldsfaqs]

You ever watch the Book of Mormon Movie?
I really liked how they showed the 'changed'. That's likely exactly how it happened.
Didn't they "look" darker to you???

LOL @ using the Book of Mormon Movie as a source.

It's not a "source"..... It's an example of a point.

Sad you people choose to mock the source rather than getting the actual point.

Did they look "darker" or not???
Since they did, clearly it's a good example of exactly what the Book of Mormon speaks of, and clearly shows your anti-mormon perversions of the book is nothing but that, perversion and LIES.

[_DarkHelmet]

It's not a "source"..... It's an example of a point.

Sad you people choose to mock the source rather than getting the actual point.

Did they look "darker" or not???
Since they did, clearly it's a good example of exactly what the Book of Mormon speaks of, and clearly shows your anti-mormon perversions of the book is nothing but that, perversion and LIES.

I never saw that movie. I was sick that day. Did the director change the lighting or something? How did he make their skin "look" darker without changing the skin color?

[_Shulem]

OFFICIAL DECLARATION

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

From the Book of Abraham of the Pearl of Great Price, scripture of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and endorsed by professors at Brigham Young University who claim knowledge of Egyptology:

Figure 6
"Olimlah, a slave belonging to the prince"



The Church of Jesus Christ proclaims to all the world that the black person in Facsimile No. 3 is not an Egyptian god but a slave called Olimlah as revealed by divine revelation from the prophet Joseph Smith. Modern Egyptologists are wrong and the Egyptian writing does not refer to Anubis. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints along with the professors at Brigham Young University are in direct defiance of modern Egyptology and continue to hold to its racist errors as created by their founding prophet. Thomas S. Monson is responsible for maintaining these lies and teaching members of the church that the god of Egypt is a slave. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has committed blasphemy against the Egyptian religion and has slandered one of its gods. Where is the apology? Where is the willingness to make ammends?

Mormons are racist! Mormon scripture is wrong. Joseph Smith lied and faked his understanding of Egyptology. Thomas S. Monson continues to cover the lie. How embarrassing for the Mormons! Shameful! Mormons are becoming a people known for lying. Before too long the word lie and Mormon will go hand in hand.

Paul O

[_Buffalo]

It's not a "source"..... It's an example of a point.

Sad you people choose to mock the source rather than getting the actual point.

Did they look "darker" or not???
Since they did, clearly it's a good example of exactly what the Book of Mormon speaks of, and clearly shows your anti-mormon perversions of the book is nothing but that, perversion and LIES.

I never saw the movie. But the ACTUAL Book of Mormon says their skin was made dark.

[_Shulem]

I'd like to bear my testimony that I know the black person in Facsimile No. 3 is not a god, his name is Olimlah, a slave in Egypt. How do I know? I'm an Egyptologist with a degree. I'm one of the finest school teachers to walk the grounds of BYU. Take it from me.

Johnny Gee-boy
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