From My Informant: A Coup for the Old Guard?

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Re: From My Informant: A Coup for the Old Guard?

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MI is a think tank for the church's PR department?

But it shouldn't keep all of its product secret because that would make it more difficult to get a broad imput which might "improve" its product?

On the other hand, it probably couldn't keep its product 100% secret anyway, and since most Mormons are unaware of, and/or directly unaffected by, its product, it would not be worth the effort to keep any of it secret?
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harmony wrote:
I'm not sure there's a lot of oversight of BYU professors. They're pretty much beyond Honor Code violations at their age.

I think you're missing the point here. Scratch is describing a situation where Peterson has been empowered by an outside source to run an outfit that is supposed to be part of BYU. That's quite amazing if you ask me. But as they say: money talks.
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Re: From My Informant: A Coup for the Old Guard?

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lulu wrote:MI is a think tank for the church's PR department.

:lol:

Ain't that the truth.
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Carton wrote:
harmony wrote:
I'm not sure there's a lot of oversight of BYU professors. They're pretty much beyond Honor Code violations at their age.

I think you're missing the point here. Scratch is describing a situation where Peterson has been empowered by an outside source to run an outfit that is supposed to be part of BYU. That's quite amazing if you ask me. But as they say: money talks.


I know what Scratch's point was. I don't find it compelling, since Dan's been essentially running the place for a long time. As for the money... well... good luck verifying that. Makes me wonder who died recently.
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lulu wrote:MI is a think tank for the church's PR department?

But it shouldn't keep all of its product secret because that would make it more difficult to get a broad imput which might "improve" its product?

On the other hand, it probably couldn't keep its product 100% secret anyway, and since most Mormons are unaware of, and/or directly unaffected by, its product, it would not be worth the effort to keep any of it secret?


What do you think is the product? What about it is secret? Why do you think it's narrow now?
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One thing is certain: no one can ever say Mopologetics isn't a profitable business.
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But seeing that nobody (especially Daniel Peterson) gets paid for doing Mormon apologetics, what on earth would they spend all that money on?
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Carton wrote:One thing is certain: no one can ever say Mopologetics isn't a profitable business.


Only assuming the rumor is true... and that the money is to be used for apologetics, and not for the main business of the MI.

Are you always this gullible?
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harmony wrote:
Carton wrote:One thing is certain: no one can ever say Mopologetics isn't a profitable business.


Only assuming the rumor is true... and that the money is to be used for apologetics, and not for the main business of the MI.

Are you always this gullible?

What do you mean ... gullible? About what?

What's to stop Peterson from misappropriating funds in a situation like the one Scratch describes?
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harmony wrote:
lulu wrote:MI is a think tank for the church's PR department?

But it shouldn't keep all of its product secret because that would make it more difficult to get a broad imput which might "improve" its product?

On the other hand, it probably couldn't keep its product 100% secret anyway, and since most Mormons are unaware of, and/or directly unaffected by, its product, it would not be worth the effort to keep any of it secret?


What do you think is the product? What about it is secret? Why do you think it's narrow now?


Good questions, lol, no fair making me think on a Sat.

The products from MI itself are ideas that might be sellable to the general public (spaghetti that will stick to the wall) which explain parts of the church that currently have limited appeal (a.k.a. strange)? MI are the brain stormers about issues that aren't selling well right now?

I don't know that any of it is secret. Maybe none of it needs to be, since 99.9% of the earth's population don't know about it or ignore it? And if it's open, more brain stormers, more ideas, better chance of finding ideas that work?

I don't understand your narrow question.
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